Japanese Health Care System

and you found this site to learn more about Japonese health care sistem. you are briliant. here everybody has their own problems, like what sax he would wear tommorow, is it posible to love someone on the internet etc.... you came here with big ideas about japonese health care HAHAHA
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have you any suggestions what other sites?

Are you considering moving to Japan because of the rotten state of Health care in Canada?

hahahahaha........funny comments.

Well go on Kringy please tell her about the health care system in Japan. She did ask nicely and the health care in Canada is the worst in the world. We get bus and plane loads of sick people from Canada where I live and they recive health care here.

How can Canadian people get health care in USA? Who pays for it? US govt?

Canadian people pay for their own travle here and then pay either for direct medical services or for American Health Insurance and recive care. They visit attractions, keep doctor's appointments fll medical perscriptions then travle home, all to avoid being told they can not recive care or that it will be months or years until they can have a medical appointment in Canada.

Thats very sad. Lucky that Canadian people have money to receive US health service. Good for USA, they get extra income from Canadian people.

It is not true this that Gypsymum is saying.. I strongly advice to see the movie "Sicko" bu Michael Moore..

This is the trailer...



In the movie we see a young cancer patient and mother travel to Canada to get health care, cos it would cost her a fortune to get any help in USA..

Trust me... The Canadians have it good.. That's why she asks..

this topic is asking for information about the Japanese Health Care system, not the American or Canadian. We don't hear enough about the Japanese Health Care system.

Sorry, I know nothing about it :((

Can you provide a reputable source for your assertion that Canada has the "worst" healthcare in the world? I doubt that is true. The WHO ranked France as having the best, Canada as a shameful 30th ranking, and the USA at 37th.

It is well-documented that most Americans cannot even afford insurance in the for profit healthcare system it has.

My brother is a psychiatrist whom studied at Cambridge University in the UK and in Cleveland and from his observations in USA, said the system in the US does not look after its people. He felt medicine is practised like a business and that physicians lose precious time dealing with insurance companies instead of treating patients.

For the record, my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer in Edmonton, and under this so-called "socialist" healthcare, she received the best professional care I have seen by far. She was admitted to surgery within one week and spoke very highly of the medics involved.

Unlike the US system, my mother was NOT billed thousands of dollars for her treatment. It was free for her.

How much would it cost an American without private insurance to get treatment for breast cancer? Thousands of dollars?

I find it difficult to believe Canadian healthcare can be the "worst in the world" by your account.

The reason some Canadians use travel insurance for surgeries and transplants in the USA, (if they are so fortunate to be granted such insurance) is to get instant services. The same healthcare service that the visitting Canadians obtain is hardly available to most Americans.

Canada's healthcare has diminished in quality due to right-wing governments cutting funding despite the majority of Canadians protesting any funding cuts to healthcare. Another problem in the Canadian healthcare delivery is simply mismanagement.

I would much rather have the Canadian healthcare system than the for-profit American healthcare system anytime.

For the record, it doesn't take years to get a medical appointment for Canadians. It takes a walk-in clinic anywhere from minutes to a few hours depending on the region.

So in response to that, my friends forwarded me this e-mail she got through her Townhall.com mailing.. Well, I can of course point to how the e-mail never quotes anything from the film. Without even having seen the film, I can already assume that this is being twisted beyond belief.

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Dear Friends:

Michael Moore ends the movie "Sicko" with a lie. It may not be an intentional lie, but it is a falsehood, nonetheless. Michael Moore ends the movie saying that every European country offers "free" health coverage to their citizens and every European country provides such coverage through a "single payer" system.

Both statements are untrue. It is a sad commentary on the pathetically, uninformed state of the health care policy debate in America that health care journalists and American political leaders do not simply know that both of the statements are untrue and that they have not responded clearly and quickly to correct the error.

So what makes these statements untrue? Reality. Most European countries directly charge their citizens for their health coverage. It is not "free" anywhere. Some nations require people to buy coverage from health insurance companies that look very much like American health insurance companies. Other countries use a payroll tax on everyone's paycheck to pay for health coverage. In those countries, each citizen pays a portion of their weekly paycheck for health insurance - - just like our Social Security payroll deduction. In Germany, each employee pays 7 percent of each paycheck for health care and each employer matches that 7 percent. People also can spend additional money to buy better coverage.

The government of the Netherlands takes 9 percent of a worker's paycheck every week to purchase health coverage - - it's hard to figure out how Michael Moore can legitimately call such a payroll deduction "free."

Also, when the government of the Netherlands deducts that 9 percent, or when Germany deducts their 14 percent -- they do not use, as Mr. Moore incorrectly claims, a "single payer system" like Canada to provide the actual health insurance for each citizen. Each of those countries has multiple health plans - or "sickness funds" -- that people choose among. Citizens of Switzerland and the Netherlands choose between competing health plans to purchase their coverage.

So "Sicko" ends with a double lie: Coverage in Europe is not "free," nor is it provided through a pure, Canadian-like single payer system. "Sicko" either deliberately misleads us or is unintentionally wrong.

Each country in Europe has found its own unique path to universal coverage. Switzerland has no government health program at all. Everyone in Switzerland is required to purchase from one of nearly 100 competing insurance companies. (The Swiss government pays for coverage for the poor.)

What about France - - a country Michael Moore described as Eden in "Sicko?" The government uses a sales tax approach and uses that money to buy a basic (not comprehensive) package of coverage for about 80 percent of the French people. The basic government benefit coverage is somewhat incomplete, however, so 92 percent of the people in France now purchase additional private insurance to fill in the 20 - 40 percent gap in various parts of their government benefits. About 20 percent of the French people skip the government program completely and purchase only private coverage. In either case, the coverage isn't free and is not handled through a Canadian single-payer model.

It's unclear from the movie whether Mr. Moore knows that he is not telling the truth about Europe's health care systems, or whether he is still low on a learning curve relative to health care financing and delivery. The learning curve seems pretty steep. He criticizes the U.S. government Medicare drug benefit in "Sicko," and he claims with some passion that the Canadians handle drug coverage much better. So how does the Canadian government actually handle drug coverage? Seven out of eight provinces do not cover non-hospital drug costs for anyone other than low income seniors. The federal government does not cover anyone.

People in those seven Canadian provinces might actually prefer the American Medicare system of partial coverage (favored by over 80 percent of enrollees), which Mr. Moore seems to sneer at in the movie. American Medicare drug coverage can have a "donut hole" in the middle. Seven of eight Canadian provinces skip the donut and give the citizens only the hole.

"Sicko" also tells the story of a Canadian on a golf vacation in Florida to illustrate the alleged superiority of the Canadian insurance and care delivery system because - - Mr. Moore claims in the movie - - the Canadian actually rushed home to Canada when he needed health care rather than getting that care in Florida. A valuable piece of information that "Sicko" conveniently does not mention at that point is that the Canadian government health coverage does not travel. Americans who are insured almost always have health coverage that covers at least emergencies whenever we travel. Canadians, however, have such long backlogs for care in so many places that the Canadian government benefit program can't afford to let people simply leave Canada to access care elsewhere. So the Canadian system that Mr. Moore so eagerly advocates decided not to let its health care benefits "travel" outside of Canada. Canadians in Florida, therefore, actually do return to Canada for care when they can... not because they don't think Americans deliver quality care, rather because their government does not cover care in America.

Again, it's not clear if Mr. Moore is low on the learning curve on that point, or more directly duplicitous. We will probably learn which statement is true as the debate progresses.

There are rumors Mr. Moore offers $10,000 rewards for anyone who can prove that any point in his movies is untrue. Since he says that "every" country in Europe uses the Canadian model, and since there are quite a few countries in Europe, does he owe $10,000 per country or just $10,000 for getting Europe wrong as a package? Or is it $10,000 per country on "single payer" and another $10,000 per country for "free"?

We can let his conscience decide. Money is owed, however.

Thank you.

Sarah Berk
Executive Director, Health Care America
Health Care America is a nonpartisan, not-for-profit advocacy organization devoted to promoting the fundamental principles of access, choice, quality, innovation and competition in our health care system.

For more information please visit
http://www.healthcare-america.org.

So if you look read research and see facts for what they are then you will never trust a word a American liberal or the sorry likes of Mike Moore say.

I have not written anything in reference to Michael Moore's left-biased documentaries. I personally view Moore's documentaries as losing credibility because he selectively chooses examples to reflect a certain viewpoint. That is unfortunate.

I have merely stated living examples of people benefitting directly from a publically operated healthcare system. Public healthcare IS affordable to all people. It is inclusive. Canadians unable to afford to pay the usual $30-$44 monthly cost are exempt.

The Canadian healthcare system has its flaws -one stemming from regional disparities and another from a shortage of doctors.

I can write and complain about many areas where it needs improvement, but I would never want the for-profit exclusive American style health system.

I am originally from the Netherlands and would prefer Canada to follow more the frightening so-called "socialist" path of inclusive normal public services.

In the Netherlands, you havn't poverty, you havn't homelessness, you havn't thousands of people in prisons like in America.

I was shocked when I arrived in Toronto to see how many homeless people are living on the streets in this rich country.

I would urge every American to take a journey to live in any western European country and fully experience a socially representative democratic system first before comparing government expenditure. Experience the European life, then speak.

@Gypsy, when you got called out by a Canadian who proved you wrong through credible sources (the WHO may know something about health care, after all) and direct experience, the proper response would have been, 'whoops, I was wrong.' Try to work on your delivery.

If Canadian health care doesn't extend to the US, that doesn't mean it's bad, it means that Canada has no way to control costs within the US system, which is notably berserk. The rest of your prolix cut and paste from a deather email is irrelevant, unless you can prove that US healthcare IS free.

@ poster google it ...am lazy today.....if you want information bout japan healthcare....there are too many there i cant select w/ best.mum....let her search for that anyway i like ur frankness mum.........thats i miss from you ......wish you spend more time here....gd evening.

No, I'm not considering moving to Japan, I just want to learn more about the Japanese Health Care System since there is hardly any substantial mention of it. Canada's healthcare is routinely compared to the US and Western European nations. From what I have learned, Japan is far ahead in nutritional approaches to health.

My question is why Cydrike????

why what? Just the little bits of information I have thus gathered about the Japanese Ministry of Health illustrates how far advanced Japan is in its approach to health.

I am not at all surprised, western media is empty of statistic about Japan. The country has the leading number of centaurians, a much lower rate of heart disease, and uses ionized alkaline water in treating chronic health in medical centers since 1966. In North America, I find most people don't even know what ionized alkaline water is and the healthcare system is a "sick" care system where people are over-medicated with synthetic, acidic-raising medications which come with ironically harmful side effects.

why do you want to know about other country medical plans??? Is not gona help ours???

because it is greatly interesting to me to compare how diverse peoples are socialized, how ideologies are formed and brought to fruition, how effective health systems are and why.

Cross-cultural studies are very fascinating for me, maybe not for you. I sense, your background hasn't been sociology/anthropology.

We can learn from other countries and from history. Ideas and technologies are transferred all over the world in this global economy.

It is a ripe time for global comparisons. I'm afraid zorpia may not be the most sensible place to discuss these ideas, but I thought I would try.

In the future, I will try to refrain from posting inquisitive, thought-provoking topics.

They prick their body with needles for every fuckin disease. The therapy is knows as Acupuncture.