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2/17/2008 2:42 PMRe: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!
Moh
24, United Kingdom
hahahaha, well there was someone here who kept on saying that it would be a dream and it shall never happen, where are they now? honestly, Serbia or no matter who the hell it was can do jack sh** when the US decides that something is going to happen. Where are the Serbs and their threats now? there is just a pathetic side of the story really, go on US, create some more countries!
2/17/2008 5:48 PMRe: Re: Re: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!
2/18/2008 8:55 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!
Ofelia
31, Albania
Ohh Maya :) Cammon
Albanians of Kosova (more than 90% of population)
call it Kosova !!
So I m calling it with the name thay use , what is more real than that !!
Albanians of Kosova (more than 90% of population)
call it Kosova !!
So I m calling it with the name thay use , what is more real than that !!
2/18/2008 9:00 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!
*♥ღ*ღ"
101, Egypt
its more thet still illegal taking of teritory and you know thet and still they dont put flag of them selfe you poust albanian and at top of all you are Albanian woman but even then Kosovo its Kosovo not Kosova when you writte wrong you give other name like your name Ofelia and thet somewone coll you Ofaria or any other name thet not your name so girl you talk about respect then respect thet littl ppl who not albanian and dont be rude with this topic .if you respect and have littl proud then you try do how need .
2/18/2008 9:10 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!
Ofelia
31, Albania
I do not get your point , none called me ofaria,even if I did not present my name otherwise But Ofelia, I did not show any disrespect for anyone all right and as for taking Ilegal territory check the history cause apparently you ignore it , ignoring is one thing but pretending to be right while ignoring the basic facts that is what you are doing. I am not writing it Wrong , go to Kosova and see how people call it there , than prove me I am wrong ok !!! I have written it in my messages that the nr one condition of Independence for Albanians in Kosava to have their is respecting their minorities ...if you check you will find this comment as well,so I do not know howcome you get out such a wrong consclusions.
2/18/2008 9:23 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Newborn State "Kosova" !
*♥ღ*ღ"
101, Egypt
lol look girl first you go and read all history couse i know her very good much much better then you and i dont ignory her you are who try to change her and tell me where its still border Kosovo-Albania and tell is is Kosovo ever in history beloung to Albania and how albanian people get there and is it Kosovo ever be albanian teritory? Then about you dont get my point ..ok i will tell you i say you writte wrong and ask any english if you writte one letter wrong you give other name if you writte state or any name wrong thet not what it is ..thet what wos my point i know whet you writte all around this topic i read all belive me what you doing not good and what i talk its to respect if you talk about respect then show ..with making this topic and put albanian flag you show hudge disrespect to other ppl there thet s my point
2/18/2008 9:47 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Newborn State "Kosov
Ofelia
31, Albania
I hate to say it but you have no idea of what you write !!!
As for the flag , it is the albanian flag that has been so long condamened in Kosova if it was shown by the albanians.
1912 Eduard Gray ( ex minister of foreign affairs ofGreat Breatain said after the conference of the ambassadors) : " Peace was donne by sacrificing the terrutory of Albanians. Of course he meant Kosovo , what's today west Macedonia where around 25 to 30% of population is albanian, and a part of today Montenegro (today Ulcinj). A nation was cut in 5 parts , thanks to president Wilson we did not dessapear as a Nation (even Albanian would not have existed)
So when a girl like you comes to tell me nonsenses about my history I can only say wauuhhh
Yesterday Kosova was covered but the black and red flag they choosed it, and I posted that flag because that flag is the one they had the right to show yesterday. For that flag thousands of lives were given through centuries, It is not a girl like you that will pretend it to be otherewise , did you ever see those people??? I did last week ok and I saw people that Kept that flag in everyhouse even more than Albanians in Albania do, so yeah my topic was nothing official, I posted it on my name without insulting anyone,if someone wanted to post another flag, I did not prohibited it.
As for my English, I know I have to work on , nevertheless I saw lots of mistakes in your English too, but what gives you the write to criticize that is another fact that only you know.
Albanians and Greeks are the oldest habitants of Balkan Peninsula. If you Ignore it check for and check for what Ptolemu said about (2th century).
By the way I find your point has no point.
As for the flag , it is the albanian flag that has been so long condamened in Kosova if it was shown by the albanians.
1912 Eduard Gray ( ex minister of foreign affairs ofGreat Breatain said after the conference of the ambassadors) : " Peace was donne by sacrificing the terrutory of Albanians. Of course he meant Kosovo , what's today west Macedonia where around 25 to 30% of population is albanian, and a part of today Montenegro (today Ulcinj). A nation was cut in 5 parts , thanks to president Wilson we did not dessapear as a Nation (even Albanian would not have existed)
So when a girl like you comes to tell me nonsenses about my history I can only say wauuhhh
Yesterday Kosova was covered but the black and red flag they choosed it, and I posted that flag because that flag is the one they had the right to show yesterday. For that flag thousands of lives were given through centuries, It is not a girl like you that will pretend it to be otherewise , did you ever see those people??? I did last week ok and I saw people that Kept that flag in everyhouse even more than Albanians in Albania do, so yeah my topic was nothing official, I posted it on my name without insulting anyone,if someone wanted to post another flag, I did not prohibited it.
As for my English, I know I have to work on , nevertheless I saw lots of mistakes in your English too, but what gives you the write to criticize that is another fact that only you know.
Albanians and Greeks are the oldest habitants of Balkan Peninsula. If you Ignore it check for and check for what Ptolemu said about (2th century).
By the way I find your point has no point.
2/18/2008 10:12 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Newborn State "K
*♥ღ*ღ"
101, Egypt
ok what you say about this ...
Kosovo, as a Serbian province, was formed in 1945. Prior to that, the only territory called Kosovo was Kosovo Vilayet (1875 - 1912) in the Ottoman Empire(The Province of Kosovo (Vilayet of Kosovo) (Serbian: Косовски вилајет, Kosovski vilajet; Albanian: Vilajeti i Kosovës; Turkish: Kosova Vilayeti; Macedonian: Покраина на Косово, Pokraina na Kosovo) was a vilayet of the Ottoman Empire in the Balkan Peninsula only roughly corresponding to the current region of Kosovo. It was created from the former Rumelia Province as part of an Ottoman administrative reform law of 1864. As a result of the Balkan Wars of 1912-1913, the province was split between Montenegro, Serbia, Albania, and Bulgaria), with borders significantly different from today's Kosovo. and where did you got thet ever be Albania or you need more ?
Kosovo, as a Serbian province, was formed in 1945. Prior to that, the only territory called Kosovo was Kosovo Vilayet (1875 - 1912) in the Ottoman Empire(The Province of Kosovo (Vilayet of Kosovo) (Serbian: Косовски вилајет, Kosovski vilajet; Albanian: Vilajeti i Kosovës; Turkish: Kosova Vilayeti; Macedonian: Покраина на Косово, Pokraina na Kosovo) was a vilayet of the Ottoman Empire in the Balkan Peninsula only roughly corresponding to the current region of Kosovo. It was created from the former Rumelia Province as part of an Ottoman administrative reform law of 1864. As a result of the Balkan Wars of 1912-1913, the province was split between Montenegro, Serbia, Albania, and Bulgaria), with borders significantly different from today's Kosovo. and where did you got thet ever be Albania or you need more ?
2/18/2008 10:42 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Newborn Stat
Ofelia
31, Albania
Exactly it was split without taking in consideration the albanians!!!
Tell me then how come you have albanians in MOntenegro, Macedonia , And still in the south of TODAY Serbia (Lugina e Presheves)
Can you please explain it to me howcome ALbania is the only nation bordered by Albanians??
Albania today 3,600,523 (July 2007 est.)
Kosova The latest estimate in 2001 by OSCE puts the number at 2.4 Million.(90% albanians)
Macedonia around 2 Million (Albanian 25.2%)That is more than 500 thousands of Albanians,
Montenegro 5% of the 600 thousands are Albanians (Ulcinj city just in border with ALbania today)
All this numbers show it clearly the division of one Nation .
Being a minority for Kosovars in Their own country was the worst it led to problems we all know today .
Isn't that clear for you that a nation was divided , Kosova was just aSerb Colony there are enough facts to demonstrate this. Just check with your eyes open!
Tell me then how come you have albanians in MOntenegro, Macedonia , And still in the south of TODAY Serbia (Lugina e Presheves)
Can you please explain it to me howcome ALbania is the only nation bordered by Albanians??
Albania today 3,600,523 (July 2007 est.)
Kosova The latest estimate in 2001 by OSCE puts the number at 2.4 Million.(90% albanians)
Macedonia around 2 Million (Albanian 25.2%)That is more than 500 thousands of Albanians,
Montenegro 5% of the 600 thousands are Albanians (Ulcinj city just in border with ALbania today)
All this numbers show it clearly the division of one Nation .
Being a minority for Kosovars in Their own country was the worst it led to problems we all know today .
Isn't that clear for you that a nation was divided , Kosova was just aSerb Colony there are enough facts to demonstrate this. Just check with your eyes open!
2/18/2008 12:06 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Newborn
*♥ღ*ღ"
101, Egypt
i didnt say how many Albanian have and where or Serbians i say what its history and for shure all ppl around a world have in every country .Dont exsist any etnical clear country in world .
In medieval times, Kosovo was part of the original Serbian kingdom. Together with some neighboring areas, Kosovo entered the annals of history as Old Serbia. The Serbian rulers from the 12th century onward built churches, monasteries, and fortresses in the area, such as those at Gracanica, Decani, Pec, and Prizren. These kings also competed for territory with the neighboring Byzantine and Bulgarian Empires.Kosovo is called the cradle of Serbian civilization because an important battle took place there in 1389. The Nemanja dynasty had died out shortly after its peak during the impressive reign of Emperor Dusan (r. 1331-1355). When the Ottoman Turks continued their push north and west from their foothold in Europe, they still faced determined resistance, however, from Serb forces and their allies, led by a prince named Lazar Hrebeljanovic.
The battle on June 28, 1389, at a site known as the Field of Blackbirds just outside today's Pristina, brought disaster to the Serbs. Although a semi-independent Serbian state would survive for another seventy years, this battle was the beginning of a long period of occupation and foreign domination for the Serbs.
The date of the battle has, paradoxically, become the single most important red-letter day in Serbian history. The Serbs grew increasingly proud of their tradition of resistance to the Turkish invaders, who were Muslim. As memorialized and mythologized--to this day--in Serbian epic poetry, folk songs, and nationalist histories, the Serbs saw themselves as the bulwark of Christendom that had blunted the force of the Ottoman invasion. The Ottomans went on to capture Bosnia, Hungary, and much of Croatia, and they besieged the great central European city of Vienna twice. But the significance of the Serbian pride in resistance to the Ottomans is more than just military and nationalist; it also reflects the "crusading" mentality so common in Europe in the Middle Ages. Christian Europeans often cooperated in land and sea campaigns against the Turks, whom they regarded as infidels. The Europeans had also mounted bloody invasions of the Holy Land a few centuries earlier during the Crusades, ostensibly fighting a holy war to liberate the area from the rule of Muslims.
It is important to note that in 1389 the Serbs were assisted by the Albanians in the Battle of Kosovo. The Albanians were also Christians. After suffering defeat by the Ottoman army, many Albanians gradually converted to Islam, as did other Europeans in Bosnia and Bulgaria.
This famous battle symbolizes the survival of the Serbian culture and language during the centuries of Ottoman rule. This survival was due in part to the Ottoman style of rule, which was usually rather indirect and did not aim at the assimilation of its conquered peoples. But it was also due to the structure and intellectual feats of the Serbian Orthodox Church. The church played an important administrative role under the Ottomans and kept alive a sense of Serbian identity, unity, and territorial claims. This, the Battle of Kosovo stands in Serbian history and culture as a symbol of suffering, of the struggle against invaders, and of cultural survival against the odds..................
In medieval times, Kosovo was part of the original Serbian kingdom. Together with some neighboring areas, Kosovo entered the annals of history as Old Serbia. The Serbian rulers from the 12th century onward built churches, monasteries, and fortresses in the area, such as those at Gracanica, Decani, Pec, and Prizren. These kings also competed for territory with the neighboring Byzantine and Bulgarian Empires.Kosovo is called the cradle of Serbian civilization because an important battle took place there in 1389. The Nemanja dynasty had died out shortly after its peak during the impressive reign of Emperor Dusan (r. 1331-1355). When the Ottoman Turks continued their push north and west from their foothold in Europe, they still faced determined resistance, however, from Serb forces and their allies, led by a prince named Lazar Hrebeljanovic.
The battle on June 28, 1389, at a site known as the Field of Blackbirds just outside today's Pristina, brought disaster to the Serbs. Although a semi-independent Serbian state would survive for another seventy years, this battle was the beginning of a long period of occupation and foreign domination for the Serbs.
The date of the battle has, paradoxically, become the single most important red-letter day in Serbian history. The Serbs grew increasingly proud of their tradition of resistance to the Turkish invaders, who were Muslim. As memorialized and mythologized--to this day--in Serbian epic poetry, folk songs, and nationalist histories, the Serbs saw themselves as the bulwark of Christendom that had blunted the force of the Ottoman invasion. The Ottomans went on to capture Bosnia, Hungary, and much of Croatia, and they besieged the great central European city of Vienna twice. But the significance of the Serbian pride in resistance to the Ottomans is more than just military and nationalist; it also reflects the "crusading" mentality so common in Europe in the Middle Ages. Christian Europeans often cooperated in land and sea campaigns against the Turks, whom they regarded as infidels. The Europeans had also mounted bloody invasions of the Holy Land a few centuries earlier during the Crusades, ostensibly fighting a holy war to liberate the area from the rule of Muslims.
It is important to note that in 1389 the Serbs were assisted by the Albanians in the Battle of Kosovo. The Albanians were also Christians. After suffering defeat by the Ottoman army, many Albanians gradually converted to Islam, as did other Europeans in Bosnia and Bulgaria.
This famous battle symbolizes the survival of the Serbian culture and language during the centuries of Ottoman rule. This survival was due in part to the Ottoman style of rule, which was usually rather indirect and did not aim at the assimilation of its conquered peoples. But it was also due to the structure and intellectual feats of the Serbian Orthodox Church. The church played an important administrative role under the Ottomans and kept alive a sense of Serbian identity, unity, and territorial claims. This, the Battle of Kosovo stands in Serbian history and culture as a symbol of suffering, of the struggle against invaders, and of cultural survival against the odds..................
2/18/2008 12:19 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Newb
Ofelia
31, Albania
History is a vast question , it is not composed by one page as it can not only be composed by one date, See as well some albanian sources, and some neutral ones before solving conclusions.
In any case your first question was why KOSOVA and not KOSOVO
See up the video taken yesterday in Prishtina and pay attention to how they pronounce it;)
Independence of Kosova (for me ) just got recognised by US !!
Many other countries will recognize it today, wait and see!!
In any case your first question was why KOSOVA and not KOSOVO
See up the video taken yesterday in Prishtina and pay attention to how they pronounce it;)
Independence of Kosova (for me ) just got recognised by US !!
Many other countries will recognize it today, wait and see!!
2/18/2008 12:34 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
*♥ღ*ღ"
101, Egypt
I am for peace at Kosovo
2/18/2008 12:50 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Ofelia
31, Albania
"well i(?) am for peace at Kosovo and not for war and i writte here littl(?) part of history and not what someone say and i still stay by my thinking thet(?) what you saying its(?) by one side (you know well what side )and if you writting you wish peace stay by thet(?) not to writte(?)and do what you just doing here and try to dont(?) forget history there still live many people who( verb missing)not albanian thet's (?)why i told you don't respect and you writte you do.And what need to happend(?) will happend(?) Ofelia.Anyway if other countrys(?) say thet(?) they agree thet(?) Kosovo get independents (?) again thets(?) Kosovo not Albania .And people need to leave(? hahhhaha) in peace what ever nacionality (?) they are ""
I can not even count your mistakes!!
Albanians in Kosova did not burn any Serbian Flags as Serbs did in the past and are doing today,
Where are you basing what you saying about me ..I do not get it , I did not insult anyone there did I..????
P.S Check your spelling ;)
I can not even count your mistakes!!
Albanians in Kosova did not burn any Serbian Flags as Serbs did in the past and are doing today,
Where are you basing what you saying about me ..I do not get it , I did not insult anyone there did I..????
P.S Check your spelling ;)
2/18/2008 12:35 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Vote
109, Berlin, Germany
Australia kicked off; They recognize Kosovo (Kosova) as an independent state. Let's hope it sets an example for more countries.
2/18/2008 12:42 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Ofelia
31, Albania
Wauuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
That 's greaaaaaaaaaaaat !!!
I feel sad I have to go to the Univ now , I would love to keep zapping the international TV channels to see how everything will roll on today!!
It is a great sunny day here in Tirana , In Prishtina I m sure they breath Independence!!
That 's greaaaaaaaaaaaat !!!
I feel sad I have to go to the Univ now , I would love to keep zapping the international TV channels to see how everything will roll on today!!
It is a great sunny day here in Tirana , In Prishtina I m sure they breath Independence!!
2/18/2008 5:31 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Newb
ArgeN
23, Bosnia and Herzegovina
hmm... well done with copy/paste... well done indeed... u said u have some more intelegence on Balkan History than her... well, in that case, u might slightly be more inteligent than me... since u know everything bout Kosova (KOSOVA)... Well, creating a SFRYugoslavia, 6 united nations received a garrantide right to break apart whenever the citizens of that nation will to... Also, Josip Broz Tito (creator and the president of that time) proclaimed Kosova and Vojvodina autonomy provinces in Serbia in case something goes wrong so the majority population (Albanians and Hungarians) would get their independence from Serbs...
The earliest time u have mentioned was 12th century... go back 4 centuries in past... n find out who r Serbs? Where did they come from? What were they doing in Balkans? What was the result of their conquest of the Balkan territory... Also, search for the natives of Bosnia, Albania, Greece, Dalmatians...
The earliest time u have mentioned was 12th century... go back 4 centuries in past... n find out who r Serbs? Where did they come from? What were they doing in Balkans? What was the result of their conquest of the Balkan territory... Also, search for the natives of Bosnia, Albania, Greece, Dalmatians...
2/18/2008 6:25 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Ofelia
31, Albania
Argen what is more funny abut her is that she made a comment and then after I noticed her "mistakes " she edited it in leaving only one sentence :)))
But my comment with her " ex comment " is down :)
I doubt in her identity of being from Egypt , especially knowing that people from Egypt have a special respect for Albanians due to the Albanian dynasty there
Ali Pasha of Egypt was Albanian .
But my comment with her " ex comment " is down :)
I doubt in her identity of being from Egypt , especially knowing that people from Egypt have a special respect for Albanians due to the Albanian dynasty there
Ali Pasha of Egypt was Albanian .
2/18/2008 6:49 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
ArgeN
23, Bosnia and Herzegovina
aaaa don't mind her Ofelia... been in a conversation with her before... it seems she knows nothing bout Balkan and Natives... but hey, at least we could encourage her to get some facts before she post anything on here...
2/18/2008 7:24 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Ofelia
31, Albania
Exactly !! haha :)
2/18/2008 10:55 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!
Vote
109, Berlin, Germany
First of all I apologize for going off-topic, but I seriously found this sentence rather amusing. My native language is not English, so I'm not a professor at this. But, for the fun of it, let's analyze this.
its Kosovo not Kosova lol learn to writte for start
Now, the above was said by a person, trying to correct someone else's spelling. I found at least 6 errors in what seems to be one sentence consisting out of nine words (not including the "lol"). If that isn't ironic then I don't know anymore.
Sorry?
its Kosovo not Kosova lol learn to writte for start
Now, the above was said by a person, trying to correct someone else's spelling. I found at least 6 errors in what seems to be one sentence consisting out of nine words (not including the "lol"). If that isn't ironic then I don't know anymore.
Sorry?
2/17/2008 9:13 PMRe: Re: Re: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!
Ervin
29, Bihac, Bosnia and Herzegovina
Agree with you :)
Most important thing now is that everybody must be comed down and do non incident in Kosovo. They have to care about Serbinas in Kosovo!
I'm sorry that Bosnia might not admitt independence of Kosovo, because of Serbians in Bosnia.
I wish them luck!
Most important thing now is that everybody must be comed down and do non incident in Kosovo. They have to care about Serbinas in Kosovo!
I'm sorry that Bosnia might not admitt independence of Kosovo, because of Serbians in Bosnia.
I wish them luck!
2/17/2008 9:37 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!
2/18/2008 12:31 AMRe: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!
Vote
109, Berlin, Germany
-11 for this topic... that is so typical for Zorpia. Some Serbs (not all of them of course, I happen to have met a few reasonable ones, regretfully just a hand full) are once again turning this into their online version of ethnic cleansing and hiding facts and truths. I am pretty sure that some new account (just like the one I made just now) are responsible for the down-votes. One person was even stupid enough to post in here pretending to be Albanian.
That Zorpia tolerates this behavior does not come as a surprise. That they don't rectify the count does not come as a surprise either. I've seen that in the past, and I will most likely see it again in the future. That there aren't enough Zorpians around to do the right thing though,.. that does come as a surprise.
"we can kill them in a second. stop sending electricity, cut trade and they die like the animals they are..."
Things like that (and that is a quote from this very thread) will be tolerated and shoved into a drawer with "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" on it. But oh my,... touch religion and you're in deep sh1t! And that comes from experience as well. No,.. do that and you're all of a sudden "disrespectful". Give me an ff-ing break.
Serbia has proven more than once that is is many centuries away from being civilized and worthy of being a UN member. I don't care about religion, ethnic backgrounds, sexual preferences,.. or whatever path anyone has chosen to walk. As long as it shows basic signs of human intellectual and moral standards. Reading things like what some people have posted here, and in other threads,.. makes me shake my head and it seriously makes me wonder why on earth Serbia should ever be a part of the European Union. Behavior here borders and surpasses that of hate, racism and pure verbal abuse. And this, apparently, is something Zorpia is allowing.
This thread has so far shown just a hand full of Zorpians that are willing to speak their minds,.. the rest either don't seem to care, are too afraid to debate with the brainless and inhumane that have written things like what I quoted above,.. or maybe they just didn't see the thread because of the score. Are there so few that are willing to step up,.. so few that are willing to vent their thoughts? In my opinion, seeing the "wrong" and not doing anything is just as bad as doing the "wrong" yourself.
I would like to congratulate Kosova/Kosovo. I wish you people all the best, and I hope you get the peace and prosperous future you people deserve, in a non-violent way. And I apologize for the cowardly behaving European countries that so far have chosen to hide behind politics and economical benefits. I feel ashamed to be part of this so called European Union. I hope the political climate will change soon and that politicians will start listening to those that put them in power. Whenever you see a European government that doesn't accept Kosovo as an independent entity, please note that it is just the politicians speaking. Keep in mind though that the majority of people in those countries want nothing but the best for Kosovo. You deserve this,... take this opportunity and make the best out of it, and make sure that future generations have something proud to look back onto, without having to feel ashamed when looking in the mirror.
And Ofelia, don't let this bring you down. The words thrown at you are just what they are, words. They say more about the people that wrote them than about you, Albania or Kosova. Thanks for bringing up this thread, I'll try to bring it back to people's attention.
Peace
That Zorpia tolerates this behavior does not come as a surprise. That they don't rectify the count does not come as a surprise either. I've seen that in the past, and I will most likely see it again in the future. That there aren't enough Zorpians around to do the right thing though,.. that does come as a surprise.
"we can kill them in a second. stop sending electricity, cut trade and they die like the animals they are..."
Things like that (and that is a quote from this very thread) will be tolerated and shoved into a drawer with "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" on it. But oh my,... touch religion and you're in deep sh1t! And that comes from experience as well. No,.. do that and you're all of a sudden "disrespectful". Give me an ff-ing break.
Serbia has proven more than once that is is many centuries away from being civilized and worthy of being a UN member. I don't care about religion, ethnic backgrounds, sexual preferences,.. or whatever path anyone has chosen to walk. As long as it shows basic signs of human intellectual and moral standards. Reading things like what some people have posted here, and in other threads,.. makes me shake my head and it seriously makes me wonder why on earth Serbia should ever be a part of the European Union. Behavior here borders and surpasses that of hate, racism and pure verbal abuse. And this, apparently, is something Zorpia is allowing.
This thread has so far shown just a hand full of Zorpians that are willing to speak their minds,.. the rest either don't seem to care, are too afraid to debate with the brainless and inhumane that have written things like what I quoted above,.. or maybe they just didn't see the thread because of the score. Are there so few that are willing to step up,.. so few that are willing to vent their thoughts? In my opinion, seeing the "wrong" and not doing anything is just as bad as doing the "wrong" yourself.
I would like to congratulate Kosova/Kosovo. I wish you people all the best, and I hope you get the peace and prosperous future you people deserve, in a non-violent way. And I apologize for the cowardly behaving European countries that so far have chosen to hide behind politics and economical benefits. I feel ashamed to be part of this so called European Union. I hope the political climate will change soon and that politicians will start listening to those that put them in power. Whenever you see a European government that doesn't accept Kosovo as an independent entity, please note that it is just the politicians speaking. Keep in mind though that the majority of people in those countries want nothing but the best for Kosovo. You deserve this,... take this opportunity and make the best out of it, and make sure that future generations have something proud to look back onto, without having to feel ashamed when looking in the mirror.
And Ofelia, don't let this bring you down. The words thrown at you are just what they are, words. They say more about the people that wrote them than about you, Albania or Kosova. Thanks for bringing up this thread, I'll try to bring it back to people's attention.
Peace
2/18/2008 8:27 AMRe: Re: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!
Ofelia
31, Albania
Dear
Vote, 107
Thanks for your wise message, it needs no comment it is so well written.
As for points - 11 it as was last night, I really did not care, I know serb ultra nationalism has not yet finished its surprises :) It is still amazing how come it is not -100000...
I would be registered on Guiness:) hhahaha
Good morning Kosova State :) !!!!!!
Vote, 107
Thanks for your wise message, it needs no comment it is so well written.
As for points - 11 it as was last night, I really did not care, I know serb ultra nationalism has not yet finished its surprises :) It is still amazing how come it is not -100000...
I would be registered on Guiness:) hhahaha
Good morning Kosova State :) !!!!!!
2/18/2008 10:47 AMRe: Re: Re: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!
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109, Berlin, Germany
I do care though, I didn't want to see a thread like this go unnoticed by the majority of the people,... just because a few people with nothing but hate and lust for massacre think they can bury it. I'm glad it has a more realistic score now,... it shows that more people do care. And I thank them for caring :)










2/17/2008 12:56 PMRe: Newborn State "Kosova" !!!