Newborn State "Kosova" !!!

thankyou senegal

thank you taiwan

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by the way
You were saying there are no schools in Albania ;) have a look at :)It seems the literacy in Albania is higher:)))than yours:)))
Literacy: Albania
definition: age 9 and over can read and write
total population: 98.7%
male: 99.2%
female: 98.3% (2001 census)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/rb.html
Literacy Serbia And Montenegro
definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 96.4%
male: 98.9%
female: 94.1% (2003 census)
note: includes Montenegro

ali nije bas ni u kini
to je kineska provincija
a ti znas kako provincije prolaze danas
hehehhehehehe

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Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:))))))))))
Long live Kosova Independent!!!!
Newest State in The world !!!

It is a fresh start, to dream...again

Thank you Heidi :)

You Welcome...

God bless everyone...

Freedom is bitter-sweet!

I hope so Heidi :)
My best wishes !!
Gotta go now a lot to study for tomorrow , and I do not want to lose anymore time for tonight in replying to some radicals here:)
Best wishes from Tirana
Albania

thank you for suporting us

God Will is Peace and love.
His pleasure is
to see us supporting us...ALL.

thank you Heidi

Thank you, s...
I do know it is God's Will,
and I God does not make mistakes...
Peace!

kosovo is serbia and will remain like that

The states that remain reserved towards Kosovo independence should be mindful of this fact. They should instead look and find the “common ground” between Kosovo and certain other countries of the world, which have agreed to the removal of sovereignty over other territories. In this regard, the relations between Kosovo and Serbia are comparable with the relations of Indonesia and East Timor. As it is well known, East Timor was occupied and annexed by Indonesia in 1975, contrary to the will of Portugal as the external sovereign, a fact which makes the annexation of Indonesia unlawful. In 1988 Indonesian government recognized the right to self-determination to the East Timor people. Singapore is another example that should be taken under consideration. This country was partitioned from Malaysia in 1965. The example of Eritrea is also meaningful for Kosovo. It was the Ethiopian government that recognized the right to self-determination to Eritrea in 1991. The case of Kosovo is also similar to the case of Namibia. Partition of Namibia from South Africa and its independence occurred in 1991. Therefore Kosovo’s independence should not be compared with secession of territories that were not annexed in a unilateral manner (against the will of the people of the original sovereigns), which joined existing states but that they are operating in territories that were part of these states at the time when they were established. In this way even the separatist movements in Transdnjestrovle (Moldavia), in Southern Osetia and Abkazia (Georgia) that do not have the ethnic basis that Kosovo has and which didn’t have an autonomous or federal status at the time of dissolution of former Soviet Union as Kosovo had at the time of dissolution of former Yugoslavia. Finally, Kosovo Albanians are not comparable with Catalonians, Scots, Wellsians, Basks or Corsicans… because they did not face a massive deportation from the states, which controlled them.

This passage was not written by you. Your English wouldn't allow you to write even this bad. It's a disrespect towards other forum members to act this way.

the true
does it right wat is happening in palestine? no,every one see that
does it right wen indonesia occupide timor? no,every one see that
does it right wat is happening if serbian land get independece from serbia? no,people must see that
does it right to isreal occupide all palestine land?no,bath usa are suporting
does is albanian happy with a kosovo albanian?yes wit the suport of the usa
does it right? no,every one see that
does it will bring problem if the problem is not solve? yes,people muste see that
in isreal is going 60years of genocide
in timor they was 25years of genocide
and now in kosovo why starting?
let serbia to serbian people! and albania to albanian people! is so simple..
is not right to serbian and to serbian land,and wen people see that is not right, they will have a valide reasons to fight, for justice.
i in portugal for me it makes no diference in my day,
is juste about justice in the world
serbia is serbia
albania is albania
kosovo is in serbia so is serbia..

thank you bratino... glad to see people with sense

Message to joao, 28
Portugal
Where is your originality :))) You posted same message to 3 topics here :)
A territory without people is just an empty territory;)unless you believe in ghosts.
People make nations, states and countries, Kosova's population is more than 90% Albanian :) , it makes it as one of most homogeneous states in Europe, I am happy though they declared their Independence as a multi ethnic state , hope in this way Serbs will take an example lesson of respect toward their minorities.
So as I have already mentioned , Kosova was Albanian, and Will always remain Albanian!
Long live Kosova Independent !

yes to shar the opinion.
i´m portugues from swisserland.
i´m neutral to the kosovo situacion.
serbian are now 10% bath years ago it was 70%,
albanian people emigrat and have 5 / 7 children each familly,
and serbian in kosovo emigrat to other place so now the albanian are 90%,does it a reason,cauze if it does,
the state of new mexico in the USA should belong to people ispanic-latinos and many other regions.
if ther is cauntry that need independe is,
basque cauntry in spain.
kurdistan in turquey/iraq.
quebeque in canada.
darfur in sudan.
transnitria in moldavia.
kosovo is from Serbian like palestina are from palestinan and timor are from timorens.
you say that it will show an example lesson to the serbian
so you think kosovo must be independet for revenche.
Serbian will fight for justice cauze justice in serbian side

hahahha a:) You really make me Laugh :)
You are more Serbian than serbians are !!Look at your posts!!
Heyy some facts I m doing as you copying and pasting;)
here is an academic article :)
have a nice reading !!
The area occupied by the Dardanians and Dardania before the Roman invasions has been ascertained on the basis of data supplied by classical authors such as Herodotus, Polybys, Livy, and Strabo, and by ancient monumental inscriptions2.
The pre-Roman Dardanians lived mainly in what today is Kosova. northwest Macedonia, and southern Serbia. To the south, their territory bordered on Peonia and Macedonia, and Bilazora near Veles was one of their border points.
This was the border between the provinces of Upper Mezia and Macedonia in the Roman period. Their western border followed the course of the White Drin, and to the north-west the upper and central border of upper Mezia.
The Morava in the east formed their border with the Thracians. It is more difficult to ascertain the Dardanians’s northern frontier. It has been observed that the station of Ad Fines (Kursumlija) represented the border between the territories of the municipia of Ulpiana (Prishtina) and Naissus (Nis), but there is no question of this being an ethnic border. The northern border east of the Morava is also unclear. There is no doubt that Nis vas later included within the borders of the Dardanian kingdom, and was reckoned by classical authors to be one of the most important Dardanian cities3.
Considering the geographical spread of the Dardanians before the Roman invasions, Kosova represents the core Dardanian territory, and can offer answers to a number of questions concerning the prehistoric and classical Dardanians. The question of links between bronze and iron age cultures is especially interesting. The question of ties between the Dardanians of the Balkans and those of Asia is also involved here. The question of connections with the Hellenic world at the dawn of classical antiquity is a separate one, as is the study of the culture of the period between the fourth and first centuries B.C.
The absence of written sources makes archaeological research ail the more important. In Kosova, archaeological research has so far concentrated mainly on the excavation of Neolithic, iron age, and some classical and mediaeval sites. Few bronze age sites have been excavated, and all of them are of an Illyrian character. Vertical and horizontal stratographies investigating the continuity between earlier cultures and Dardanian iron-age culture proper have not been carried out4.
The iron age has been the most intensively researched period in Kosova. Research has shown that a culture with distinct features that can without doubt be called Dardanian existed in the eighth century B.C., in the territories that written sources later call Dardania.
Despite its individual characteristics, Dardanian culture belongs clearly to the Illyrian community.
Its similarities to the bronze age cultures of Anamorava and the cultures of Paracin and Mediana in the northeast, despite isolated finds in Kosova, do not in any way suffice to permit Dardanian culture to be seen as anything but Illyrian, especially in the absence of proper research of the bronze age in Kosova.
It must be borne in mind that this question concerns the shapes of utensils, such as cone shaped pots with brims folded inwards, that are widespread over a much wider area. The real relationship between the culture of Bernica e Poshtme (Gornja Strazava) and Dardanian culture has still not been established.
A few characteristics, such as the similarity of the urn of Bernica e Poshtme with that of the tumulus of Shiroka and the urn of Bellaqevc (the latter of a similar type to the urns of Lushte and Llapotinc) seem insufficient to assert a continuity between the Bernica cultural group and Dardanian culture. Even if such a continuity is demonstrated, the outward similarities of the tumuli of Kukes, Mat, and Gllasinac, which show a continuous development from the bronze age onwards, do not permit any separation of Dardanian and Illyrian territories.
On the basis of present knowledge, Dardanian culture before the Roman invasions developed in the following phases5.
I Pre-Dardanian culture (before 9 th century B.C.)
lIa Dardanian culture (8th-start of 6 th century B.C,)
lIb (6th- mid-5 th century B.C.)
lIc (mid-5th-mid-4 th century B.C.)
III Urban Dardanian culture (4 th – 1st century B.C.)
While pre-Dardanian settlements are on the plains (Nosala. Kllokot, Fafos Il, Glladnice), Dardanian settlements are in the hills. Most of them were inhabited in the Neolithic period and later from the eighth to the fourth centuries B.C.
Settlements sited on strategic hilltops were defended by encircling stone walls and open trenches in the less well-defended parts Research in Gadime e Eperme, Veletin, Bellaqevc, Cernice, Hisar near Suhareke, Teneshdoll, and Novoberde shows buildings within the settlements to have been rectangular, with wooden posts in stone foundations.
Some necropolises from this time have also been researched in Kosova. Burials were in tumuli. Cremation was practised, and ashes were placed in graves or urns. Features of the tumuli of Kosova link them to those of Kukes, Mat, and Gllasinac6.
Remembering that burial rites are in general conservatively preserved and do not change rapidly, the Dardanian tumuli can be directly connected to the Illyrian culture of the western Balkans. The special characteristics noticeable in the Dardanian group in Kosova (Shiroke, Malopolc, Llashtice). in the Kukes-Drilon variant (Romaje, Perceve, Rugove), and the finds at Karagac must be considered in the context of contacts with neighbouring cultures developed through communications with the Adriatic coast via the valley of the White Drin and with other Illyrian territories via the Black Drin and the valleys of the Lepenc and Vardar.
The discovery of jewellery at Janjeve and the graves found at Banje e Pejes and Novi Pazar suggest comparisons with other Illyrian lands and ties with Greece.
Closer ties with the developed world of the south also encouraged the development of Dardania society. From the sixth century B.C., we encounter the precursors of hill cities. In the fifth century, master potters produced pottery on the wheel, mainly of Hellenic appearance, which was sold on the market. Craftsmen also produced weapons and jewellery7.
Pliny writes about Dardanian traditions in jewellery: “Men even wear on their upper forearms (gold bands) that come from Dardania, and are therefore called dardane8. The presence of Hellenic imports on Dardanian territory at this time testifies to the development of trade.
A number of finds show the development of pre-urban Dardanian society between the sixth and fourth centuries B.C.: these include the tiles at Veletin and sockets for wooden king-posts; the spread of settlements beyond hill-top acropolises toward the plains; and the flattened terrace al Gradine near Gadime e Eperme, that must have required major physical effort and a high level of organization.
Discoveries of coins from the fifth and fourth centuries B.C. and the appearance of more elaborate forms of pottery testify to the demands of a more sophisticated society.
Urban settlements developed between the fourth and first centuries B.C. Strabo mentions the “polis arhaia” of the Dardanian Calabrians9. While Livy several times uses the term “urba” for Dardanian cities and mentions the city of Sintia10.
Many of the urban sites from this period remain undiscovered, because until recently archaeological research concentrated solely on the excavation of the acropolises of old iron age settlements. The erroneous view prevailed that these were continuously inhabited until the Roman invasion, which gave rise to the mistaken conclusion of the retarded development of Dardania as a result of the lack of contact with developed southern regions. The Dardanians contacts with the south have been viewed solely in terms of their frequent wars with the stale of Macedonia (Dardania gens semper infestissima Macedoniae)11.
Recent research has proved that close contacts with the Hellenic world began toward die end of the seventh century B.C. with import from Chios. It has also been observed that hill settlements in Kosova gradually disappeared toward die middle of the fourth century B.C» as dies also did in the Shkup valley (Shkup castle Nerezi, Varvara, Studencan)13.
No case of the destruction or forced evacuation of a settlement has been noticed, which makes their desertion a result of the urbanization of Dardanian society the more likely explanation. In fact, a tendency to move settlements to the feet of mountains (Veletin, Tenesdoll) is observable toward the end of the sixth century B.C.
The development of Dardanian society and its ties with the south led to the birth of the Dardanian state, for which considerable evidence exists, including testimony to the existence of a monarchy (its kings included Longar and his son Bato, and Monun)14, the incidence of dynastic marriages, such as between Etuta of Dardania and Genc: the institution of slavery: and the existence of an army at the disposal of the king, divided into corps of 8 000 men.
The fact that the Romans did not attempt either to destroy existing economic and social structures or to assimilate those whom they conquered enabled the Dardanians to preserve their characteristics and traditions into late antiquity.
Such ancient divinities as Dea of Dardania and the god Andin survived in the Dardanian pantheon15. Local costume was preserved, as is evident from gravestones and the bust of a woman from Kllokot. A specific style of Dardanian architecture and of monumental inscriptions arose in the imperial period. The tradition of mound burial was preserved, as shown by the two tumuli excavated at Ulpiana, Dardanian-­Illyrian names survived, as did the names Dardanian and Dardania themselves, until late antiquity16.
Slave and peasant revolts (latrones Dardanici)17 indicated resistance to the Roman occupiers. The province of Dardania was created in the fourth century A.D. as a result of the growth of Dardania independence.
These facts argue against the Romanization of the Dardanians in the time of the Roman Empire. M. Mirkovic points out that the indigenous inhabitants in the area of Scup and central Dardania (Ulpiana and Municipium D.Dardanorum) were greater in number than monumental inscriptions would suggest, which leads to the conclusion that not even the inhabitants of urban centres were Romanized to any great extent. Mirkovic aIso points out that most villages and their inhabitants retained their pre-Roman names18.
The Dardanians’ independence did not in any way mean their separation from the other lllyrians. The Illyrian Kingdom extended from the Neretva River in the north to the Vjosa and Lake Oher in the south’9, and maintained close ties with the Dardanian Kingdom that were not broken by Roman occupation. Thanks to this continuity, the Arbers and Albanians, the successors of the Illyrians, were born as a people in the territory where the Illyrian states had existed20.
Failing to appreciate this process, various writers have sought the origin of the Albanians in different areas2.
Urban centres such as Ulqin, Peje, Prizren, Shkup, Tetove, Diber, Struge, Manastir, Korce, and Janine as well as routes of communication from Durres, Shkoder, and Vlore toward Athens, Salonica, Nis, and Sofia were important for Illyrian and later Arberian and Albanian integration.
In recent years, various baseless theories have been advanced with the aim of denying the ethnic rights of the Albanians in the territory of the former Yugoslavia as the successors of the Dardanians and the civilization they created.
These have included:
1) The denial of the Illyrian ethno genesis of the Illyrians, with the assertion that their origin was Daco-Mezian.
2) The assertion of an Illyrian intrusion into Dardanian territory in the sixth to fifth centuries B.C., i.e. that the Illyrianization of the Dardanians began at this time.
3) The assertion that the Albanians were created in the early Middle Ages as a result of the intermarriage of nomadic shepherds and local un-Romanized remnants, including remnants of the Illyrians and Dardanians22.
Even though the elaboration of the Daco-Mezian thesis by Serbian goes beyond the academic sphere, it has become topical because of the status of Kosova and the question of the Albanians in the former Yugoslavia.
Certain matters that disprove this theory must therefore be mentioned. Its initiator, V. Georgiev, relying on certain linguistic data taken out of context, admits that “We know nothing about the language of the Mezians in the Balkans”23. Nor do classical sources offer any kind of facts suggesting that the Dardanians were Mezian tribes or neighbours to them”24.
Remembering that the Tribalians were between the Dardanians and the Mezian tribes, it must be said that Dion Kasi distinguishes the Tribalians from the Mezians. After analyzing the sources concerning the Mezians, F. Papazoglu concludes that they were not Mezians25. It must be realized that the Dardanians had a long eastern border with the Thracians, not the Mezians. The only direct link with the Mezians might have been the Tribalians in the north, if the Mezian origin of the Tribalians is confirmed, but this does not make the Dardanians lived on Illyrian soil, writing that the river Angro the southern Morava or the Iber) flows from the “country of the Illyrians”2t
The fact of the Illyrian character of Dardanian culture during the iron age disproves the theory of Illyrian intrusion into Dardanian territories in the sixth and fifth centuries B.C. When one bears in mind that it was during these centuries that the Dardanians achieved a higher level of development and that it was only slightly later that they appeared as the sole large political force in the central Balkans, any occupation of Dardanian territory by Illyrians or anybody else appears improbable.
It must also be added that the Illyrian character of all the Dardanian kings (Longar, Bato. and Moun), is indisputable, as is the Illyrian character of the majority of the personal names that appear on monumental inscriptions from the Roman period discovered on Dardanian territory. Place names also testify to a continuity of the old names according to the historical development of Albanian phonetics, as in the cases of Naissus (Nis), Scupi (Shkup), Scardus mons (Sharr), Drinus (Drin). etc27.
In conclusion, it might be said that the thesis of the Illyrian character of the Dardanians is the most tenable. Dardanian society developed to the extent that a Dardanian state was formed. Tradition, and economic and political interests contributed to the Dardanians’ ties with other Illyrians. As a result, the territories where Illyrian states had formerly existed (in modern Albania, Kosova, western Macedonia, southern Serbia, Montenegro, and Cameria) did not succumb to Romanization, but continued to be inhabited by an indigenous Illyrian or Arberian-Albanian population. In contrast, in areas where the Illyrians did not achieve organization in states, the population was assimilated by Slav tribes, as in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Croatia, and Dalmatia.
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1. R. Mack, Grenzmarken und Nachbarn von Makedonen in Norden und Westen. Dissertation, Goettingen, 1951, p. 172.
2. F. Papazoglu, Srednjebalkanskaplemena u predimsko doba, Sarajevo, 1969.pp. 143-161
3. Ibidem, .p.160.
4. Serbian authors attempt to assert the Daco-Mezian origin of the Albanians on the basis of these ties. See: “liiri i Albanci”, Srpska Akademija Nauka i Umetnosti. Beograd 1988.
5. E. Shuknu, Helenizovana keramika starijeg gvozdenog doba u SAP Kosovo, Dissertation, Pristina, 1989.
6. B. JubanL Të dhëna për kulturën tumulare në Shqipërinë Verilindore, in: “Studime Ilire”. I. Prishtinë. IY/8,p. 152.
7. E. Shukriu, op.cit, p, 148.
8. Pliny XXXII 3. 12. Ilirët dhe Iliria te autorët antikë, Tiran& 1965, p.199.
9. Strabo VII 1,5.
10. Livy XLI 4. 7-10. XXVI 25. 3.
11. F. Papaioglu. op.cit. p.111.
12. E. Shukriu.op.cit. p.150.
13. I. Mikulcic, Skopje so okolnite tvrdini. Skopje. 1982. p. 32.
14. F. Papazoglu, Ilirska i dardanska kraljevina, in: “Iliri i Albanci”. Beograd. 1988. p.162. n.16.
15. E. Shukriu. Dea e Dardanisë dhe mozaiku i Orfeut, in. “Seminari ndërkombëtar për gjuhën, letërsinë dhe kulturën shqiptare”. Prishtinë, 1989. pp. 15-16.
16. F. Papazoglu, Ilirska i dardanska kraljevina.... p. 169.The author does not deny the possibilitey that the Dardanian population may have survived the barbarian upheavals and migrations and entered the Middle Ages under the new name of Albanians.
17. E. Cerskov. Rimljani na Kosovu i Metohiji, Beograd, 1969. p.54; S. Anamali. Ilirët dhe shqiptarët, in: “E vërteta mbi Kosovën dhe shqiptarët në Jugosllavi”. Akademia e Shkencave e RPS të Shqipërisë, Tiranë. 1990, p.33.
18. M. Mirkos ic. Einheimische Bevoelkerung und roemische Staedte in der Provinz Obermoesien, in: “Aufsteig und Niedergang der roemischen”. Welt. II. 6. 1977. pp.844-845.
19. S. Anamali. op.cit.
20. The tact that a compact Albanian mass, “indigenous Illyrian s e p a r a t e d from the Albanian core”, existed in the area covered by the Illyrian Kingdom in the vicinities of Kotor and Ragusa is in favor of this idea: M. Shuflaj, Serbët dhe shqiptarët, Prishtinë. 1968. p.61
21. H. Baric. Hyrje né historinë e gjuhës shqipe, Pnshtinë. 1955. pp.47-50.
22. These ideas are assembled in the collection ‘Iliri i Albanci”.
23. V. Georgiev, Introduzione alla storia delle lingue indoeuropee, Rorna. pp.44.
24. According to Cassius Dionis (LI 27, 2), the Mezians and the Getes Iived between Hemus (the Balkans) and Istria, i.e. far from the Dardanians.
25. E. Papazoglu, Srednjebalkanska plemena.... pp.60-64.
26. Herodotus, IV p.49; F. Papazoglu. op.cit., pp. 166-167.
27. E. Çabej, Problemi i autoktonisë së shqiptarëve nê dritën e emrave të vendeve, in. “E vërteta mbi Kosovën dhe shqiptarët në Jugosllavi”. ASHSH. Tiranë. 1990, p.54.
ANCIENT DARDANIA - Prof. Dr. Edi Shukriu - Institute of History – Prishtina - KOSOVA

look i´m not serbian or albanian!
i´m not palestinan or isreal
i´m not USA or iranian
i juste see wat is right or not,
palestinan was 90% of palestina and then isreal take all the land is not right.
in kosovo serbian receive and live with albanian,and now that albanian are in suepriority take the land of serbian,
bath albania allready have a lande,
serbia didn´t atakke albania to take kosovo.
kosovo is Serbian region like voivoidina.

you need some more education ;)
Kosova WAS, IS & WILL remain Albanian :)
You like it or not !!
Long live the newest State in Europe!!

look ther is peace keepers portugues troops in kosovo to secure peace,i dont want a war cauze of kosovo,
and like i tell you justice will preveal.
in isreal,kosovo or in irãn,coreia or tibet.
wen the population come to the street aking for action and not for peace i´m worry for peace,
and all start wit emigrantes coming to serbia from albanian.
albania does allready have a land,is not juste to serbian.
i dont defende the serbia or albania.
if i was albanian i will tell that kosovo is albania.
if i was serbian i will tell that kosovo is serbian.
becauze i´m not one or the other i say that ther allready existe albania and allready existe serbia,
ther is land for this to people.

Kosova belongs to Kosovars (90% albanian) the ethnic cleansings were against human rights!
So yeah Kosova belongs to its people!
FULL STOP! Since you spoke for people

well isreal also take palestine people and puth them in concentration campe like refugies campe does it right,
palestinian are stell lunch rocket over isreal at we speak cauze palestine want justice.
if USA try to take away serbian land,
serbian will fight for justice.

Since you are not Serb howcome you say:
"serbian will fight"

Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiipppppppppp
Anyway you should leave Portugal in order to do that don( t you think ;)

if spanish people move to algarve true the next 20years and reclame a region of portugal to spain i will not like,even if they was 99% spanish people in a region in portugal,
usa can not come here and give part of my land to the neighboring cauntry without consence of population.
i dont want war beetwin russia and usa becauze of kosovo issu.
after the election in the usa,usarmy will be busy in irãn.

I suggest we should divide kosovo in a serbian province and in an albanian province....and how about giving autonomy to the greek inhabited albanian south? How does this sound?

do you agree that cyprus is divide?
cyprus is from greece and it was occupide and USA didn´t do nathing,why USA is now is kosovo,making another iraque in europe..

because my friend, smaller states can be controlled easily....they are using the albanian people to achieve what they want for themselves...

time will show that if USA continue to do pressur they will be have more problem,like otheres place,kosovo seem to only be more politicly fight beetwen russia and USA.

Right, their final target is Russia. Since the times of Allen Dalles or even earlier. Russia is rich in natural resources, many tried to open their mouth to bite some.

dividing kosovo is out of question, we'll take it back one way or another and deport them back to albania...

haha! May the christian Lord be with you

;)

does it right to deport people?
is this a action been taking by china wen the comuniste expluse all strangers from china,does each stat do that to prevent situacion like kosovo or destrubes in france or terririste attake like madride or london.

they want their country, their country is albania. we allowed them to live in our land and now they want to steal it from us. and i'm not chinese, i'm serb.

yes i agree bath the right thing to do will not be do it,
so ther is more trouble and more terroriste coming in now.

well, i'm expecting that to happened. basque, corsica, ireland and others have more right to independence than kosovo...

if you want my opinion, that's also a solution, if you don't have other choise...

lol U are really euforic, even if is independent its not albania!!!!!!

Your 'fauls point of view" :)
Sorry reality is different , the independence day spoke in ALBANIAN :)

Honney Kosova is independent ok, but its not albania and it will never be, so keep on dreaming :)

Keep dreaming yourself :)
I do not dream anymore my cousins have their own Albanian state :)
No matter what you say, will change that !

Apparently u dont know what an independent state means lol. Ur cousins might be there but they are kosovars not albanian they are citizens of a new state lol independent one.
Its name is KOSOVA and everyone knows it was part of Serbia.

I like you say "Everybody "
hahhahaha
if ti was like that there wouldn't be 100 countries recognizing its Independence already :)
loooooooooooooll
you make me laugh !!

everybody who have some knowledge about it yeah. everybody else who doesnt even know where albania is on the map they dont know as long as they are not informed.
and just because they recognized its independence it doesnt mean they dont know its a serbian land ;). These are political games dont worry honney the americans must have another reasons to accept this instead to make the albanians euforic.

hhahahahahaha :)
Kosova was covered by BLACK AND RED albanian flag ;)
You like it or not
IT has ALWAYS been Albanian :))))

it still remains a different state for ur information cause seems u dont really know it:
definition: INDEPENDENT STATE :
Has space or territory which has internationally recognized boundaries (boundary disputes are OK).
Has people who live there on an ongoing basis.
Has economic activity and an organized economy. A country regulates foreign and domestic trade and issues money.
Has the power of social engineering, such as education.
Has a transportation system for moving goods and people.
Has a government which provides public services and police power.
Has sovereignty. No other State should have power over the country's territory.
Has external recognition. A country has been "voted into the club" by other countries
and as an example the best is Moldova it was romanian land (and we have clear history), the russians occupied it and then after the break-up they wanted to be independent. well they might be our brothers but they live in a diferent contry my dear and its name is Moldavia. They are known in all this world as Moldavia and not Romania. so after all this u dont understand Kosovo its not Albania well .... better not say it lol

I love your clear History :))))))))))))))
The oldest habitants of balkans were Illyrians (the ancestors of today Albanians);) and Greeks!!
Romanians came a long time after, anyway I respect your history and this is not the point. But to me you are so NAIVE!!!
do you realy believe that if it was a Serbian land it would have been such a support toward them!!!
A lot of conferences have been held in this study, that is why the Independence found such a support.
If in Moldavia there would have been the same what happenned in Kosova I am sure you would speak differently.and yet you seem to ignore something else
The population We are not dozens of millions as you are , so of course we have stronger connections as a nation than you do with Moldavia.
The economic Independence will start now there since the statut QUO was an obstacle for it.
So yeah I say it LOUDLY Kosovo was is and will be Albanian !!

hahahaha u albanians CLAIM to be the descendants of Illyrians! I could claim that im an alien but how can i prove it? lol.

The earliest known inhabitants of Kosovo were called Illyrians by both Greeks and Romans. Albanians today claim to be direct descendants of the Illyrians. Serbian scholars claim that Albanians appeared on the scene in the early Middle Ages as a result of intermarriage between nomadic shepherds and unromanized remnants of Illyrians and Dardanians from Thrace. Tracing such descents is difficult but the people living in the region before the arrival of the Serbs from the North are likely to have some genetic relationships to Albanians, but DNA data would be needed to definitively settle the claim, which in any case is hardly germane to the current conflict. The region was conquered by Alexander the Great 300 years before Christ and became part of the Roman province of Dardania in the 4th century A. D.
Slavs crossed the Danube and moved into the Balkans by the 6th century. These migrations weakened the Byzantium Empire sufficiently that Illyrian speaking people, known to their neighbors as Albanians moved eastward from the Adriatic into the Kosovo region of the Balkans. Their language became known as Albanian and their culture became allied with Byzantium after the breakup of the Catholic Church into Eastern and western branches in 1054. Slavs migrating into the Balkans divided into three groups; Slovenes, Croats and Serbs, as is still true today. By the 12th century almost all arable land in the region now known as Northern Albania and Kosovo was in Slavic hands.
By 1190 Kosovo had become the administrative and cultural center of the medieval Serbian state ruled by the powerful Nemanjic dynasty. This dynasty lasted 200 years and still today Kosovo is known by Serbians as "Old Serbia". However in 1389, in the famous Battle of Kosovo Polje, the Serbs and their allies were defeated by the Ottoman Turks and shortly Kosovo became part of the Ottoman Empire. Albanians started to move back into Kosovo in considerable numbers in the 15th century and the Ottomans took sovereignty over the region in 1489. During this time the great majority of Albanians were still Christians, and Serbs and Albanians lived together in reasonable harmony. Gradually Albanians and to a lesser extent Serbs became converted to Islam. Serb resistance to conversion was strengthened by activities of the Orthodox Church since Kosovo contained many seminaries and was the home of the Serbian Orthodox Church. In the late 17th century Serbs left Kosovo in large numbers as a result of military victories of the Ottoman Turks. This caused the Serbian "center of gravity" to move northward to the region of Belgrade where it has remained ever since. This displacement of the Serb population is known in history as "the great migration". As a result, the region of Kosovo became underpopulated and, attracted by available fertile land, was resettled by Albanians moving eastward from the hills of Albania. At this time these Albanians were both Christian and Muslim.
From ur point of view metaphoricaly speaking yeah u can say " LOUDLY Kosovo was is and will be Albanian !!"
cause its the way u see and feel things but never the other countries will see Kosova as a part of Albania, its gonna have its own identity and even the flag will change its just a metter of time.
Its ur attitude that bothers me cause u are talking like Kosovo its part of Albania, honey i tell u one more time and then im really done cause u seem to be really deaf or blind.Kosovo is at this moment an INDEPENDENT STATE!!! these are the facts so wake up.

exactly you are refered to serbs hahhahahahahahaha
NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY
ILLYRIANS are ALBANIAN3S ancestors ;)
Some neutral source;) But you have the right to be jealous i know:)hahahahhaha
http://www.geocities.com/protoillyrian/
Abanian is the only Indo European language that has preserved the archaic structure of proto Aryan language. Albanian adjectives and ordinals come after the stressed nouns.
The law formulated in 1892 by J. Wackernagel, according to which unstressed parts of the sentence tend to occupy a position after the first stressed word normally situated at the beginning of a sentence qualifies Albanian as the oldest living Indo European language.
The putative origin of Illyrian Albanians
Elements of Indo-European Phonology
Here you had a living proof ;) that is the language !!
Anything else socalled "HAPPY" I am afraid you are sad now:((

Im affraid the history is really unclear there and im really tired to talk about facts that happened thousands years ago, facts that apparently cant be proved. What i read is that mostely Kosova belonged to Serbia after 1190.
im really happy and i have no reason to be jelous im really neutral.
For me and for all the countries Kosova is and will be a state as long as apparently it was recognized it by lots of countries. I just wish them good luck cause they gonna need it as someone else said here.
I wish u good luck too I also repect ur history too but Kosovo might have a different one.

You have to know our my History in order to Respect it :)
The fact is you don't know it. Nevertheless yeah what counts is that Albanians are ruling their own country there finally :)
Long live Kosova Independent!!

lol I dont HAVE to know ur history be resonable, i dont care about albanian history i just made some researches cause i was interested strictely what is with Kosovo region. Albania is a state and Kosovo is a different state got it? Seems like u forgot why u made this topic, (u were crazy happy fot Kosovo's independence) cause u are talking like kosovo belongs to albania which is true only in ur head apparenly. Now this is the last reply, cause im really tired to hear about ur fantasies. Kosovo is and will be not Albanian official teritory u better use to the idea!!!!!! Byeeeeeeeeee

In my head and in the head of millions of albanians , as well in the head of many countries that are recognizing Kosova :)
You like it, you do not like it , THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM I do not caaaaaaaaaaaaaaareeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:)
Sorry;)
LONG live KOSOVA ! Second Albanian State in Balkans!!!!

lol jeeee i promised that i dont reply anymore, but i cant this is so funny, im almost rolling on the floor laughing u are so pathetic "Second Albanian State" u really must have a problem hahahahaha

Same ,I can not stop laughing with what you claim :)
more than 90% Albanians hahhahahahahaha
It still is not an albanian state fore you!!!!
hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

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http://kosovothanksyou.com/
19 last time I checked.

i´m not serbian or albanian,
you can see my profil i have ther the flag of cauntry that i like the moste.bath i respect otheres and difrent opinion.

hi portugal ur opinion is mine too :)

if kosovo get independe serbia will ask kosovo to return from albania allway´s and is a pending issu and then it will be horst mayby war,so kosovo is a serbian land weher serbian and albanian live.if albanen dont want to leave in peace so leave kosovo cauze is servia leave in peace or leave.

you still claim to be Portuguese :)

hahhahahahaha

yes i´m portugues bath i come from swisserland.
i´m neutral in the balcan situacion.

yeahhhhhhhhhhh :)
Your comments are everything BUT neutral ;)
Facts facts facts :)

Sth you do not know what it means yet !

ok supose that kosovo is independent so next serbia will want to take back their land in the futur,and USA will not be in balcanes forever they will leave like they did that in otheres place and then serbian will take the revenche like the albanian are taking now with the usa so it will cauz more trouble,kosovo is not timor or basque cauntry.
in basque cauntry ther is no french or spanich thei have basque.

What happens if the USA just threatens to bomb the crap out of Serbia? Cause that's going to be the most likely retaliation. Either that or crippling economic sanctions. Does Serbia want Kosovo back so much that it's willing to destroy what it still has?

Falenderit Ofelia
Vertet mundohesh te i mesosh njerezit ne lidhje me realitetin e ri mirepo keta vertet nuk marrin vesh asgje nga realiteti i ri i krijuar ne europe.Mua me te vertet me vjen mire qe dikush si ju zonjushe e nderuar ende mundohet te i bind njerezit ne net ne lidhje me qeshtjen e Kosoves. Edhe pse e kuptoj anglishten une nuk mund te i shkruaj atyre ndonje gje pasi qe ne te shkruar te anglishtes nuk jam dhe aq i mire. Dhe per kete vertete ndihem keq. Ndoshta po te dija te shkruaja do te te ndihmoja sadopak ne spjegimet tuaja dhe do te te dilja krah. Por edhe ashtu mendoj se nga ajo qka lexova vertet je duke ja dale shume mire.Falenderit shume per kete ndihmese qe i ben Kosoves.

Te lutem Miku im
Un jam gjysme Kosovare :) dmth mos flasim kot ne te gjithe jemi shqiptare apo jo , kombi yne megjithe keto vuajtje serish ka mbijetuar dhe do mbijetoje :)
Keshtu qe nuk ke pse me falenderon :) e bej kete me kenaqesi dhe me krenari!!
Rrofte Kosova e pavarur!!
Long life to Kosova Independent
And I wish you courage for the new challenges of your new state !!

congratulation for freedom...
We want to freedom Kosova...

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Excuse me, when you say "we" whom do you mean?

that´s not right wat is happening wit serbian land.
it will provoque more viallance and this time the justice is one serbian side.albanian want revenche and USA is doing for politique to mesure forçe wit russia.
let serbian in peace.
we want peace!
if ther is independe it will provoque fury,
and serbian will fight for justice and wen people fight for justice they have more strongneste.

the USA are mesuring forçe wit Russia,
kosovo is serbian land,
albanian have allready a cauntry in albania.
does cauntry deport the emigrant to prevente this situacion,
serbian wher to kind with albanian and now they are getting paye wit revenche wit the help of USA becauze of russia.
Irãn must like this situacion cauze the attention is getting to kosovo and not to nuclear terrorist treat that is coming.

oh really portugal guy hmm what makes u think that kosova is serbian land and who is going to deport what the f.. r u talking about where did u get this kind of info Kosova was never land of serbia and it will never be so stop being so pathetic

yes really!
the histore of kosovo come back from more than thousend of years,even if a few cauntry recognize kosovo,they will be other that will never do that like russia and other,china,spain,romenia etc
you dont know the situacion,you dont have argumentes leta,
justice is in serbian side.
i must say that i suport war one terrorisme,
uçk was terrorist helping by the usa,
like in afganistan against the sovietique.

hahhahaha ur funny what the hell do u know about Kosova and by the way is not Kosovo is Kosova and yes i do know maybe not everything but a lot about Kosova and Serbia and about situacion hmmm i know a lot first i was born there half serb half kosovar and was there on 1999 the whole time so dont tell me wich side the justice is or should be maybe if u actually had a taste of the whole thing that went on there u would be talking different and i have nothing against serbs lots of my friends and half of my family r serbs and love them to death but in the end kosovars deserv independence and no usa did not help uck wrong info again

if you say that you dont know all the situacion i invite you to know more about the true and the consequance of injustice.
true the years the population change like in usa ther is states that have more than 50% latin people so thos states must have independe from america? does it right to russia arrive in america and say that arizona is now to mexican people? if it makes no sence so kosovo makes no sence at all cauze you need to informe better about this specifique situacion is not like basque cauntry is spain or tibet,
kosovo is old serbian land,
serbian welcom albanian refugies from otoman muçulman.
kosovo didn´t want independe bath usa invite to do it like it did in panama,coreia,and lote more are to come if USA does win good sence they will continue to have terror in the world. let´s win the war on terror let´s not open new conflit´s.
justice for serbia!

u know i am kinda having fun here ur telling me about my home land hahahhaa read something real not something that comes from serbia and find out about the history of Kosova until than i guess i will laugh with ur story's here

yes you are learning i understein you far away from the problem who can you understein,the USA gouvernmont also dont understein and if it does it dont care about justice,this will make serbian to fight for their land and i dont want war!
peace in kosovo!
respect for servia land.
justice for serbian.
usa makes politic power games wit russia and albania want revenche frome serbia.
justice most be done,
serbian will fight for justic.
i´m not albanian or serbian,
i´m for justic and peace!

u justice and peace hahha yeah Joao

Yeahhhhhhhhh:)
Good morning WORLD from Tirana :)
Hey Leta my congratulations to you as well!!
Long live KOSOVA and hopefully en era of prosperity and peace starts here in Balkans!

falemnderit Ofelia gjithashtu edhe ty urime pavarsia e Kosoves te deshiroj dit te mir dhe suksese ne gjdo hap te jetes :)

Albanian people have they cauntry
Serbian people have also they cauntry
if serbian land are taking by the USA
serbian will be fight in the justice side
right now serbian was the bad guy cauze of the war
bath becauze of kosovo serbian are been injustice
justice and peace for serbian!
if not it will increase the instability of balcans.

dont forget that albanian also tret badly and kill many serbian,bath serbian also did that to albanian in kosovo,
serbian did bad thing yes also is true!
if we tak away a porcion of land from serbia we will doin a bad thing even worst,serbia will be legitim if will defend this land from foreign occupation,if the nort of albania was occupide by serbian i will defend the freedom of albanian lands,bath in this case,kosovo is a land from serbian from hundred of years.otoman impérium come to balcan and serbian receive refugée from albania that run away from otoman,serbian was nice to albanian in the passe and now they are furious cauze after some generation of refugiée now albanian people want´s serbian land´s is not right..
i ´m not serbian or albanian,
i just dont want war in balcan.
two cauntry two people.
they is people that dont have cauntry like the basque or kurds and otheres and in this case is difrente.

no sweetie albanians never left their land the only thing that happend is whom ever decided to stay in kosova during the otoman time they were forced to become muslims and thats why 90% of kosovar albanians are muslim unlike Albanians from Albanian they are mostly christian so i strongly suggest that u get some real info based on reality of that time not some kind of bull that was made up 500 years after

"If you say that you dont know all the situacion i invite you to know more about the true and the consequance of injustice"
OH REALLY TELL ME MORE ABOUT IT I POSTED FACTS HERE THAT DEMONSTRATE CLEARLY THE GENOCIDE HAPPENED THERE BY SERBIAN POLICE
"true the years the population change like in usa ther is states that have more than 50% latin people so thos states must have independe from america?"
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALBANIANS IN KOSOVA THEY WERE IN THEIR OWN LANDS FROM THOUSANDS OF YEARS I POSTEDFACT FOR THAT TOO YOU MAKE AMALGAME OF THINGS WAKE UP REALITY ISFAR FOM BEING BLACK AND WHITE
does it right to russia arrive in america and say that arizona is now to mexican people? if it makes no sence so kosovo makes no sence at all cauze you need to informe better about this specifique situacion is not like basque cauntry is spain or tibet,
ONCE AGAIN AMALGAME IT WAS THE GENOCIDE CAUSED THAT MADE INDISPENSABLE THE NEED FOR INTERVENTION THERE
I POSTED FACTS FOR THAT TOO
"kosovo is old serbian land," WHERE ? HOWCOME ? AND HOWCOME HISTORY SHOWS WHAT YOU SAY IS NOT TRUE?
"serbian welcom albanian refugies from otoman muçulman".
STILL NONSENSES, THECONTRARY HAS HAPPENED THEY EXPELLED THOUSANDS OF ALBANIANS IN TURKEY
"kosovo didn´t want independe " OHH REALLY THE TRUE WAS THAT IN THE INDEPENDENCE DAY ALL ALBANIANS IN KOSOVA WERE CELEBRATING FOR THEIR INDEPENDENCE
"bath usa invite to do it like it did in panama,coreia lote more are to come if USA does win good sence they will continue to have terror in the world. let´s win the war on terror let´s not open new conflit´s."
STILL AMALGAME KEEP GOING YOU DO NOT INSPIRE READING

"justice for serbia!" FINALY JUSTICE WAS DONE FOR ALBANIANS AT LEAST A KIND OF JUSTICE AFTER A CENTURY OF TERROR!
p.S Please next time you ask to be friends with someone be sure you share ideas, to me you share everything but not ideas.

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genocide is ruwanda,palestine,armenia,if in kosovo they was a genocide they will be no albanian now.
milosevic start to deport albanian bat the army made some killing and wit was bad to reputation of serbian,bath now things change and wat happen to serbian land is not right.
wen i see somthing rong i will say and serbian did rong thing in the war,
now albanian are taking revenche cauze usa is in the area.
justice to servia.
peace in the balcan!
injustice can mean bloody war not only in kosovo.

we dont have the same ideias,and i repect that,
for me you can be serbian or albanian,
is the justice point of view i respect that.
you speak about genocide,
does it excuze to isreal occupide palestian land and do a 60years genocide?
does it right take land from serbian to revenche the war?
serbian defend they land is normal.eny cauntry will do the same,if albanian people didn´t have a land to live i think kosovo shol be independent,bat albanian people have allready a land..why wanting more..for revenche.. in macedonia ther is also a city with 60% of albanian does macedonia also be part of albania..

we dont have the same ideias,and i repect that,Mee too
for me you can be serbian or albanian,I AM ALBANIAN BUT I FEEL A WORLD CITIZEN AS WELL
is the justice point of view i respect that.JUSTICE IS NOT A POINT OF VIEW, THAT IS WHY LAWS ARE MADE TO PROTECT NATIONS AND PEOPLE
you speak about genocide,
does it excuze to isreal occupide palestian land and do a 60years genocide?YOU ARE MIXING ISSUES, i ADMIT i HAVE TO STUDY FIRTHER THE ISRAELI ISSUE TO GIVE MORE CLEAR OPINIONS ON THAT
does it right take land from serbian to revenche the war?
KOSOVA HAS NEVER BEEN SERBIAN LAND,KOSOVA WAS TAKEN UNJUSTLY BY SERBS.
serbian defend they land is normal.eny cauntry will do the same,if albanian people didn´t have a land to live i think kosovo shol be independent,bat albanian people have allready a land..why wanting more..for revenche.. in macedonia ther is also a city with 60% of albanian does macedonia also be part of albania..
YOU MIX PROBLEMS IN FYROM for me macedonia is not the name THERE HAS BEEN SIGNED THE OHRID TRACTATE, THAT MEANS A LOT THAT MEANS THAT HUMAN RIGHTS THERE WILL BE RESPECTED ALBANIANS ARE MORE THAN 25% OF THEIR POPULATION,LIVING AS WELL IN THEIR ANCESTRAL LANDS, SO UNLESS THIS TRACTATE IS NOT RESPECTED
YOU ASK ISN'T THERE ENOUGH ONE ALBANIA WHAT DO YOU SUGEST THERE, THE ETHNIC CLEANSINGS OR WHAT?

THAT MAP WILL NEVER HAPPEND! REMEMBER WHAT CAUSE WW1?

ALBANIA GAVE UP KOSOVO TO YUGOSLAVIA!

You make me laugh!!!
Albania was declared independent in 1912 in the declaration Kosova and all Albanian territories were included, but same time we were not privileged as a nation, Serbia had strong links with Russia and Kosova was given to Russia's side as a concession!!
Learn some history for God's sake !

albanian people have allready a cauntry to live.
kurds people dont have eny cauntry,
basque people doesn´t have eny cauntry,
quebec people doesn´t have eny cauntry,
palestinian doesn´t have eny real cauntry,
thos people deserve a cauntry to live.
Albanian people have allready a cauntry to live,
if Serbian didn´t accept the emigrant from albania
this problem in kosovo was not happening now.
in paris/france in cliché sur boi ther is 80% of
nort african people,does cliché sur boi ask for independece to,so it make no sence to take serbian land cauze albania allready existe.
Serbia is right on this point.
if albanian people didn´t have eny cauntry i was suporting the independece of kosovo,bat the situacion is not like that,so serbia is right on this issu.
i must say that serbian and albanian did rong criminal thing to each eater booth did rong criminal thing,
my opinion is independet and about justice.
Kosovo is Serbia.
Albania is Albania.

You do post same message ion different threads that shows one thing , but please do not post the same message in the same topic 2 or 3 time as you are doing it in my thread.
Is it too much to ask??

well yes,look is juste about justice,
for my palestian isreal serbia albania are all the same,
i talk about justice. i dont suport eny one i´m independent.
if you see my profil i have many flags about cauntry that i like and i dont have serbian flag or albanian flag.
my opinion is independent,is about justice.
Kosovo is serbian,
serbian will fight for justice,and wen they will fight dont say they are terrorist or criminal to sent fire the embassy of usa or others thing cauze they are/will fight for justice,
in this issu the terrorist are USA that are occupide serbian land ilgal,ONU dont have autorized that to,so is clear that,
kosovo is serbian land.

Kosova IS , WAS, AND WILL BE ALBANIAN:)

You like it or not more than 90% are albanians!!
People make countries and Kosova is ALBANIAN
Long live Kosova Independent!!

look you say "you like it or not"
i dont care! for me is all the same serbian albanian is all the same for me,i just talk about justice.
i dont suport serbia i suport justice.
we live in a worl unfair,in not new,
injuste in kosovo will bring war,serbia during the war made thing that i didn´t like at all and i didn´t like,
i dont suport serbia i suport justice.
ablania seem to want independece for revenche and USA is trying to do it for game power wit Russia.
the true is that albania have their land and serbia also.
kosovo is in Serbia you lik it or not.
people that dont want to live in serbia juste leave serbia.

as u said they all have their own country and kosova is finaly kosovar country does the name of the state actually mean something to u is not serbova is kosova :)

Yeah, dude! That gave birth to Osama Bin Laden! He was trained on their military bases, they wanted to use him against USSR (were so concerned to destroy it), but now the devil is out of the bottle.