~#~ NOW they estimate death toll at 250,000 ~#~

:'(

Hey Aleeze How are you? we don't seem to talk much these days. Hope everything is going well for you
*SMILES*

Well, some people are too proud.

How do you mean too proud in this case?
*smiles*

wat da fook chu mean by tat TOO PROUD? r u insane? ain't no joke , man.

Read the topic and you'll find out.

send me a private msg bout dat.plz.man

see. I noe wat chu meen. but PPL NEED HELP. ok?

Thats not the case. What I think is, they want to prevent foreign influence over people by all means. The influence will likely to be very huge because of nature of the work which is helping people and junta really afraid of that. They've been propagandizing xenophobic mentality for over couple of decades now. They don't want their work down the drain at this moment. Letting them in is like shooting its own foot. So like all other inhumane dictators of the world, junta choose to scrifice its own people which is damn sad. :(

Ahhh....that's sad, but sometimes being xenophobic has its benefits.
Well, every country has good and bad laws.

They aren't rich enough to push xenophobic agenda, not to mention in time like this. Thousands of people lives are at stake. Its going to be very disastrous if chlorea outbreaks happen. I'm shocked and appal to see how egocentric they are in this kind of situation. They have no regards to life at all.

Someone else said that the military Junta are heavily involved with drug production.
"their military junta already proved that they're more interested in saving their opium production than protecting/improving the life of the people there. "
I had not realised that. IF true, and I am prettry sure it mighht be true, that WOULd explain it. and why they have kept their country out of reach by the rest of the world.
*SAD*

Yes, it's sad. Sorry for being pessimistic but no one can change this world.
This world is going to end anyway. Too many bad things keep happening.

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Someone else said that the military Junta are heavily involved with drug production.
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sad but true. Once my friend told me about his travelling expereince to eastern state. He was pitched by local man if he wanted to grow poppy. The profit margin is very shocking. He would get as high as $2000 from investing as low as $50. That is taking into account of giving militry officals bribes to turn a blind eye. What more intersting is that, buyers will collect the resin at the end of the season instead of he, needing to venture to find one.

it is sad..reminds of katrina victims and the people in jakarta indonesia..very say..GOD BLESS THEUR SOULs..it saddens me to see a child dead.. ;( it tears me up so bad..as in tears in heaven..*eric clapton i light my candles tonoght for their souls to be blesses into heaven. :( (kinda cry na lagi of the anguish that the gvt and police forbid aid to the people!

Thanks Jason
I wish we could all do more to help people in such distress
*smiles*

chris yo usmile too much :P (joking)
well i think as long it is volunteer work it is so wonderful..a freelance agency to go there and help them recover and hospitalize people in need of medicine and and stuff..i know i can be a mean ass but ido got a soft heart..:P

Jason, I know there are things we don't agree on, but we are all people with human rights, and I do always try to understand everyone's point of view. Obviously I can't agree all the time.
I do think there is good in EVERYONE, We always need to work on that fact.
*smiles*

couldnt have said it better!

You really cant blame them there. Just take a look at other countrys who get help with aid, they seem to think they own them after that.
Its a sad sad case, God help them plz!
Nobody on earth deserves this :(

can't blame em?

I can agree with you, and general aid. Yes So Called "AID" does so often lead to that country going bankrupt after accepting aid. because the aid is to build airports and big buildings and put a BIG MAC in every town, and ruining their fragile economy
But this of course is different. The kind of aid being given here is legit.
Thanks Martha for your imput
*SMILES*

Australia gave immense amounts of aid to the Indonesians after their boxing day tragedy and we don't think we own them after that. :/

awww thats sad :(

may be we should deliver te cosmos cookies and bboy planet blue berries!!!!

oooo yes.. but would they be able to live off them tho??? :S

dose sh!t-headed Junta neva think bout the ppl , man. n ya noe y tey dun giv the visa to aid angencies but ask em to leave the money n aids? 1. Tey wann take em and distribute to da ppl and get a good image and show the ppl tat tey r life savers. but fuk dat.n anyway tey will take half of the aids for the army. everbadi noes how **** tey r. and now i just wanna ask to GOD that y that is happenin to the innocent ppl? ashhh....m realli sika it.

Good to hear from someone IN mYanmar at last
Are things Ok in your area?
Hope you are safe
(PS I gave Oxfam some money to help, but even they are not allowed in)
Take care
stay safe

@_@. no man. I m from London

Do you have any connections to Myanmar?
*smiles8

Yes. but y ya smiling? u smile a lot , man. @_@

Yes and our org iz still helping out the ppl in some other ways. dun ask me how. cuz we could get arrested when we go bak to our country. ain't no joke , man. serious

PS - this is our ORG website. http://www.bsouk.org

humm.. seems like the another bless of merciful GOD.. he who once again made the suffering ppl to get out of their miserable lives.. oh yeah.. GOD>. KILL THEM ALL>. let them all go to heaven and rest in PEACE..ha.. what a way eh.. don't you think?

So sad, because so many COULD have been spared, and help the injured and comfort the bereved
Glad to see another Myanmar person on line at last
*TAKE CARE be safe*

Kill em all???????????

autocratic govts are afraid at anything and everythn :(

@philcovers, sadly that figure will still go up. ironically i see only a few people discussing why it couldn't be ethically acceptable to prepare a military intervention to save lives in myanmar.
their military junta already proved that they're more interested in saving their opium production than protecting/improving the life of the people there.

Is that what their interest is in?
Have you any facts on that?
I had not heard of that before.
I am not in favour of military intervention, for own ethical reasons, but there has been a case for intervention of somekind, especially if the opium thing is rife there. Zimbawe too has not been a target either.
REASON OIL. or rather NO oil!.
One can only hope that a peaceful solution can be found, more or less in the way South Africa was eventually rescued from it's tryanical government in the Apathide (Spelling!) days.
I always wondered what it was that the military Junta was really up to.
*SAD*

@philcovers, i'm sure you have heard before about southeast asia's golden triangle. serious and reputable literature exists about the implication of burma/myanmar's military junta in such drug activities.
i'm sorry, but i can't think of any ethical argument not to force a military intervention in myanmar.

Because I do not believe in force. It never works
Look at Palestine
look at Iraq
Look at what it WAS like in Northern Ireland, till they came to their senses and decided to work together after all.
There ARE other ways, and they do work, force rarely works
*smiles* Love & peace to all

@philcovers, well, if the humanitarian assistance is not immediately deployed some other estimations talk about 700.000 considering also the lack of food, enough medical care, facilities, infrastructure and possible consequences of epidemics.
we are talking about a dictatorial regime, clearly involved in the production and distribution of opium and heroin in the world over the past decades.
tell me chris, talking hypothetically, if your neighbour's home collapsed and their kids were injured. if you had the certainty that without medical attention they could die and their parents for some obscure reason wouldn't allowed it, wouldn't you call the police?

wtf? again this proves my point i have lost faith in my kind. What about those poor babies and children? I mean i cant even be without a couple of hours without water.
And even if the myanmar government did allow this donations the people that need wouldnt get it.

Thats bogus, that got me angry and i wrote a poem about that crazy military and leadership they have.

I don't know why they are not letting them in, They are only there to help.

this is wat i got off the yahoo news

YANGON, Myanmar - Food and water reached cyclone victims in greater amounts Sunday after many roads were cleared, but there was no sign Myanmar's military rulers would allow foreign experts to handle the distribution, international aid groups said
The junta says it only wants international relief material and money but not the people to manage it. It wants to hand out all donated supplies on its own to an estimated 2 million people who are without food or shelter, facing the threat of diseases, after the May 3 Cyclone Nargis.
"Visas for international humanitarian personnel remain a critical issue, and one on which the U.N. and Myanmar's regional partners are engaged," an internal report of the United Nations humanitarian coordinating agency said.
According to the government, 23,335 people died and 37,019 are missing. Some international aid organizations say the death toll could climb to more than 100,000 as conditions worsen.
However, British aid group Oxfam warned Sunday that the lives of up to 1.5 million cyclone victims are in danger from diseases if clean water and sanitation are not provided soon.
Oxfam regional chief Sarah Ireland said "there are all the factors" for a public health catastrophe." She said the death toll from the May 3 cyclone is likely to be 100,000 and the number could multiply by 15 times in the coming period.
She told reporters Sunday: "We are afraid there is a real risk of a massive public catastrophe waiting to happen in Myanmar. It is a perfect storm if you will."
Packing enormously powerful winds, the storm battered the Irrawaddy delta, leaving hundreds of villages under water and felling trees and power lines. Myanmar's main city Yangon was also badly hit.
U.N. staff in Myanmar are reporting "significant progress in clearing roadways, and the piped water supply has been partially restored to some parts of Yangon city," the U.N. report said.
It said helicopter relays of international aid arriving in Yangon are being made to Pathein in Irrawaddy delta, for further distribution.
"Aid is getting through in increased amounts," said the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies. It said three planes of the federation with 14 tons of shelter material arrived in Myanmar and were cleared without delay, replenishing Red Cross stocks already in the country before the cyclone.
So far, the humanitarian effort has supported 220,000 people, it said. A further seven flights are expected to arrive until Monday, carrying 20 tons of shelter material, jerry cans and 2,000 mosquito nets.
Australia Foreign Minister Stephen Smith announced Sunday that Canberra would give $23.5 million to help the survivors cope. The money would be given to U.N. agencies and other nongovernmental organizations to be spent on food, clean water and purification units, health and sanitation kits and tarpaulins.
"It is beyond the capacity of any one nation state to deal with," Smith said of the cyclone's devastation,
Myanmar's junta has also been criticized for holding a referendum on Saturday on a new constitution aimed at solidifying its hold on power, while brazenly turning cyclone relief efforts into a propaganda campaign — in some cases, generals' names were scribbled onto boxes of foreign aid before being distributed.
The referendum seeks public approval of a new constitution, which the junta says will be followed in 2010 by a general election. Both votes are elements of what the junta calls its "roadmap to democracy."
But the proposed constitution guarantees 25 percent of parliamentary seats to the military and allows the president to hand over all power to the military in a state of emergency — elements critics say defy the junta's professed commitment to democracy.
The referendum was postponed in the worst affected parts of Yangon and the Irrawaddy delta, but people in many peripheral areas that were also affected were asked to vote.
"For many of these people this referendum is bizarre, it is illogical. They are surviving by a very thin thread. Why do they have to worry about politics?" said Debbie Stothard, head of the Southeast Asian human rights group ALTSEAN-Burma. Myanmar is also known as Burma.
She told Associated Press Television News in Bangkok, Thailand, that the junta is manipulating aid and delivering it selectively, ignoring the needy.
"Even in Yangon area, which is reachable by the regime, people are complaining they are not getting aid. What they are getting is rotting rice," she said.
In the cyclone-hit areas, long lines formed in front of government centers, where rations of rice and oil were being distributed. Elsewhere, people clustered on roadsides hoping for handouts. The words "Help us!" were written in chalk on the side of one home.
"Please, don't wait too long," said Ma Thein Htwe, 49, who waited with dozens of other women and children at a monastery in Kungyangon for her ration of rice.

Thanks for posting this

welcome..:D... let's all pray for the victims who are still trapped.. :D

and those living who have to cope with loss of their family & friends
*SMILES*

yeah...

I just heard a little news about the boat sinking that was carring aid to them!!! Is it true? What some bad luck all around that country . I feel so sorry for them . The new death toll is up to 280,000!!

God Bless their souls! God will give them strenght!

R.I.P */l\*

i saw on the news that the usa government was trying to work out with them to allow air drops of supplies.

that would better than nothing
but does nothing to help the ill and injured.
also it is quite likely that the local authorites might still grab the supplies.
The few countries who Myanmar DOES do business with, must surely put pressure on the junta.
*SAD*
Peace & Love to all

yeah i know they wont even allow the red cross in to help.the leaders need to suck up their pride an let others help.