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4/25/2007 6:16 AM GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably (52 Comments)
- Max
- 20, Victoria, Australia
GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
Freedom of speech Hero Richard Dawkins makes it clear and simple how there is near to no chance of God existing (concentrating on the absurdity of the Judeo-Christian-Muslim God existing). Satire on Religion. Why Atheists (in this case American-Atheists) are concerned about Religion. American Media unjustly mis portrays Atheism.
RICHARD DAWKINS ON CNN
RICHARD DAWKINS "WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG"
RICHARD DAWKINS ON BIBLICAL MORALITY
WHY ATHEISTS CARE ABOUT RELIGION
SATIRICAL CREATION OF WORLD BY 'FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER
THE SIMPSONS "THE MYTH OF CREATION"
THE USA'S UNACCEPTANCE OF ATHEISM
HOW RELIGIOUS PEOPLE THINK THEY WIN DEBATES
Any Comments?
RICHARD DAWKINS ON CNN
RICHARD DAWKINS "WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG"
RICHARD DAWKINS ON BIBLICAL MORALITY
WHY ATHEISTS CARE ABOUT RELIGION
SATIRICAL CREATION OF WORLD BY 'FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER
THE SIMPSONS "THE MYTH OF CREATION"
THE USA'S UNACCEPTANCE OF ATHEISM
HOW RELIGIOUS PEOPLE THINK THEY WIN DEBATES
Any Comments?
4/25/2007 11:38 AMRe: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
Snezana
18, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
FUK U USA i mean use r full of s*i* omg talk abbt sins and god n yet ur killing innocent ppl n calling them terrorists?? =]] well i dun believe in good i am athiest but ppl should do wat dey believe in no mattah wat do it for urself not others around u =]
4/25/2007 6:53 AMRe: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
pretty cool i myself love to debate about this subject and i really dont believe in it all myself i think the bible was like a following in ancient times to make people follow a good path ie the wrath of god will be upon you and lots more crap like that to keep ignorant masses in there grip so to speak in past times there were people more forward than the rest and clever enough to come up with rubbish like this to control populations thats your god
4/25/2007 7:24 AMRe: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Exactly. I mean who says that Shakespeare could not have written a masterpiece as convincingly (to some people) as the Bible is. I mean its simple- Orson Welles was able to trick millions of Americans, so why can't they see the same through the Bible? Even before Jesus lived there were many philosophers (such as Epicurus) who noted the falsehoods of religion.
"It is said that men may not be the dreams of the Gods, but rather that the Gods are the dreams of men." - Carl Sagan
"It is said that men may not be the dreams of the Gods, but rather that the Gods are the dreams of men." - Carl Sagan
4/25/2007 9:48 AMRe: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
Fredrik
19, Norway
Awsome videos, thanks!
That debate was insane! seriously, its appauling!
Norway is one of the least religious countries in the world, yet, its been judged the best country to live in, for years!
And i don't really think that the islam extremists are the only ones to be feared, what about christian extremists? they kill people all the time! Notice how many serial killers are christians! a lot of the time, crimes is religiously motivated... Most of the time, the majority of extremeists are religious, rather than atheist...
That debate was insane! seriously, its appauling!
Norway is one of the least religious countries in the world, yet, its been judged the best country to live in, for years!
And i don't really think that the islam extremists are the only ones to be feared, what about christian extremists? they kill people all the time! Notice how many serial killers are christians! a lot of the time, crimes is religiously motivated... Most of the time, the majority of extremeists are religious, rather than atheist...
4/25/2007 10:08 AMRe: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
I totally agree with you!
You might want to check this video out too-
DAWKINS ON BILL O'REILLY
If you know anything about the American Media, you would know how the USA has a few big news shows such as 'fair and balanced' and the bill O'Reilly Show which are just complete propaganda for whatever the media owners wish to say. As you can see, even the wording of 'fair and balanced' has such Orwellian language.
Without going into too much detail, it is clear that these news shows have one strict agenda every time- to win their opinions over to the public. Dawkins was lucky to even have his say with O'Reilly here. You'll see how O'Reilly really tries to suppress him.
I agree with you about Religious violence...we all know that Hitler was Roman Catholic, as are the Mafia, Timothy McVeigh, The Christian Identity (Christian Terrorist group) and the KKK are also strictly religious. It just shows that Religion produces much violence...probably much more than the non-religious folks.
peace.
You might want to check this video out too-
DAWKINS ON BILL O'REILLY
If you know anything about the American Media, you would know how the USA has a few big news shows such as 'fair and balanced' and the bill O'Reilly Show which are just complete propaganda for whatever the media owners wish to say. As you can see, even the wording of 'fair and balanced' has such Orwellian language.
Without going into too much detail, it is clear that these news shows have one strict agenda every time- to win their opinions over to the public. Dawkins was lucky to even have his say with O'Reilly here. You'll see how O'Reilly really tries to suppress him.
I agree with you about Religious violence...we all know that Hitler was Roman Catholic, as are the Mafia, Timothy McVeigh, The Christian Identity (Christian Terrorist group) and the KKK are also strictly religious. It just shows that Religion produces much violence...probably much more than the non-religious folks.
peace.
4/25/2007 11:26 AMRe: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
ruba
25, Cairo, Egypt
can i ask you just one thing who's mr reshared to say god exist or not who give him the mind which he use it who create all this beauty around us who give u ur soul who made these mountaines in ur country and who made the oceans who will take ur soul answers all these quetions and if ur answer will be the nature so who create it ? any way plz ask ur self if there's no anther life why the ppl die and where they go ? and answer me after that
4/25/2007 3:43 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
ruba
25, Cairo, Egypt
i just wanna tell that animals die coz all every thing have a soul have to die and they didn't have another life coz they didn't have a mind to be resbonsibal about there faults so they are not like human who's have a mind to know where's the right and where's the wrong and god create this creations to help us and put them under our service so i answer ur question so am waitting for ur answers !?
4/25/2007 3:57 PMRe: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
Keith
32, Saint Louis, Missouri, United States
At least in the sense that such a deity can rightfully claim jurisdiction over all humankind it is unproven and highly unlikely.
While I do not doubt that asking such a deity into your life would bring results, the claims that such religions have made have not been proven.
Any being that would desire jurisdiction over all creation is a threat to liberties, a threat to free will, and is highly greedy. There should be plenty of space in the universe for such people to create an unpentrable homeland where that can live life the way they want. To try and tell others how to live their life while on the individual level might be motivated by love, it is probably just the will of a universal hegemon who cannot stand the mind he cannot penetrate.
While I do not doubt that asking such a deity into your life would bring results, the claims that such religions have made have not been proven.
Any being that would desire jurisdiction over all creation is a threat to liberties, a threat to free will, and is highly greedy. There should be plenty of space in the universe for such people to create an unpentrable homeland where that can live life the way they want. To try and tell others how to live their life while on the individual level might be motivated by love, it is probably just the will of a universal hegemon who cannot stand the mind he cannot penetrate.
4/25/2007 7:14 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Maybe...possibly...hopefully...
Well they did reach critical acclaim right?...lol
Maybe you should release a Mimo-2 Series. ;) lol
Well they did reach critical acclaim right?...lol
Maybe you should release a Mimo-2 Series. ;) lol
4/25/2007 7:14 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probabl
MIRIAM :)
33, Cairo, Egypt
LMFAOOO am sure mimo 2 will come sooner or later hahahahahha
4/25/2007 7:20 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......pro
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Hopefully SOONER! I've had to wait too long!
I'm surprised the paparazzi aren't after you at the moment!
I'm surprised the paparazzi aren't after you at the moment!
4/25/2007 7:21 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?.....
MIRIAM :)
33, Cairo, Egypt
hahhaah shut up LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
4/25/2007 7:26 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?.
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Are you still drunk from the other night when you took those photos? Yeah I thought so...lol
4/25/2007 7:27 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXI
MIRIAM :)
33, Cairo, Egypt
mayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybe you will never know LOOOOOOL
4/25/2007 7:28 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Well hopefully the next series that comes out will be able to explain a good deal about this and that. lol
4/25/2007 7:30 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES
MIRIAM :)
33, Cairo, Egypt
;)
4/25/2007 7:04 AMRe: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
i dont believe in what i cant see n there is no way i'm trusting some book a bunch of crack pots wrote. but thst how i feel n well if someone believes in that stuff who am i to judge? who is anyone to judge?
4/25/2007 7:18 AMRe: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Yes True. That is why organized religion is wrongly persecuting so much of the time. What countries need regardless of Religious belief, are secular societies.
Did you watch any of the videos I posted up? If you do, I would recommend you seeing the video "WHY ATHEISTS CARE ABOUT RELIGION". This one in particular is about Atheists being regarded as not as important as religious people in the United States. Richard Dawkins and other commentators point out that Theocracies are too controlling in both America and the Islamic world.
Did you watch any of the videos I posted up? If you do, I would recommend you seeing the video "WHY ATHEISTS CARE ABOUT RELIGION". This one in particular is about Atheists being regarded as not as important as religious people in the United States. Richard Dawkins and other commentators point out that Theocracies are too controlling in both America and the Islamic world.
4/25/2007 9:41 AMRe: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
that vid just made me really angry because up until now i didnt really think about all of those things. guess its better to know now then never.
4/25/2007 10:05 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
haha change is not always good though.. hehe i change all the time n it drives people nuts.. lol anywho i never was for organized religion and being under someone elses control. its amazing here in california how many peopl are christians... kinda scary.. and not having a certain religion does put a cramp on trying to find a job.
4/25/2007 10:09 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Why would not having a 'certain religion' put a cramp on finding a job? I don't understand.
4/25/2007 10:13 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probabl
the part of california i live in has alot of mom and pop shops and its a very small town and everyone is christian.. and well basically if you dont fallow the same as them.. you get no place.
4/25/2007 10:17 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......pro
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
See, thats exactly what needs to change- tolerance. People need to be more accepting of other peoples beliefs...
If I were you, I would just burn all these little clips onto a DVD walk into a job interview with and pass them the tape. Say "That tape will sum up my CV." lol
Then they will probably have a heart-attack and die or something hey. I bet if every Christian (or Muslim or Jew for that matter) saw these vids, there would be a whole lot of people at least questioning their faith.
(ps. I thought that California was supposed to be one of the most liberal states in the US?)
If I were you, I would just burn all these little clips onto a DVD walk into a job interview with and pass them the tape. Say "That tape will sum up my CV." lol
Then they will probably have a heart-attack and die or something hey. I bet if every Christian (or Muslim or Jew for that matter) saw these vids, there would be a whole lot of people at least questioning their faith.
(ps. I thought that California was supposed to be one of the most liberal states in the US?)
4/25/2007 10:27 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?.....
some of california is still pretty backwards and well my family thought where i live was a good quiet place to grow up... but its just holding me back :p i'm moving though so i'll live lmao. but yeah you are right the clips would have alot of people questioning their faith... and well... the old folks... might not handle it so well.
4/25/2007 11:53 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?.
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
I believe that the time in history has come that will make a lot of people begin to disbelieve or suspend belief in their religion whatever it may be. (Many reasons for this).
That is why in countries such as the USA although the elderly may be intolerant to change, the younger population will slowly begin to recognize the logic of Atheism. (The definition of Atheism by the way is a disbelief in a deity).
It has reached a time where people can think for themselves. Thus Atheism numbers go higher....
That is why in countries such as the USA although the elderly may be intolerant to change, the younger population will slowly begin to recognize the logic of Atheism. (The definition of Atheism by the way is a disbelief in a deity).
It has reached a time where people can think for themselves. Thus Atheism numbers go higher....
4/25/2007 8:46 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXI
well i rather it happen sooner than later. hmm but one can only hope. i rather dislike being told i need to go to church and pray to god for all my sins.
4/25/2007 4:11 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probabl
Keith
32, Saint Louis, Missouri, United States
Here in America pre 9/11 percentages for those who were Christian dropped from about 89% to about 78% according to Wikipedia.com... How many people submitted to the Christian God after 9/11 and whether or not some within Christian society found 9/11 as a great way to increase church membership is debatable...
Wherever that figure is now would bring the answer to your question. If most Americans think that their should only be one work ethic existent on Earth or the nation, then this would cause much problems to economic freedom in society.
Wherever that figure is now would bring the answer to your question. If most Americans think that their should only be one work ethic existent on Earth or the nation, then this would cause much problems to economic freedom in society.
4/25/2007 4:08 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
Keith
32, Saint Louis, Missouri, United States
And even if there was one personality that controlled the whole universe and demanded that all creation adhere to the personality determined by such a tyrant, I would still probably respond with the occasional, "Fukk You"... or "What the hell crawled up your butt"...
or if I was in reverse pysche mode I would analyze and say... "These thoughts... these desires to control all... when did they begin?... were they always a part of you?... or was there some event or chain of events that led to your urge to control every mind in the universe?"
or if I was in reverse pysche mode I would analyze and say... "These thoughts... these desires to control all... when did they begin?... were they always a part of you?... or was there some event or chain of events that led to your urge to control every mind in the universe?"
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4/25/2007 7:10 AMTHE NATURE OF GOD
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
HERE ARE SOME QUOTES ABOUT THE NATURE OF GOD
(Website is www.atheistempire.com for those of you interested)
"It is said that men may not be the dreams of the Gods, but rather that the Gods are the dreams of men." - Carl Sagan
"It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create him." - Arthur C. Clarke
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
- Epicurus
"God is not dead. He is alive and working on a much less ambitious project."
-- graffito
"Don't you know there ain't no devil, it's just god when he's drunk."
-- Tom Waits
You know your god is man-made when he hates all the same people you do.
--[from Usenet]
"If it turns out that there is a God, I don't think that he's evil. But the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an underachiever." - Woody Allen
4/25/2007 7:27 AMSKEPTICISM AND GOD
Max
20, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
QUOTES ABOUT BEING SKEPTICAL ABOUT GOD
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - Carl Sagan
"And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence." - Bertrand Russell
4/25/2007 7:45 AMRe: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
islandxmen
23, Auckland, New Zealand
if god dosnt exist in ur world dan im u dont exist in his world.....
datz a msg from da leada of TcB in aux..nz.
take ma advice...jus believen in him coz some day u will get to witness him 4 urself......
hit me bak weneva....
MeSe.s
TcB.
datz a msg from da leada of TcB in aux..nz.
take ma advice...jus believen in him coz some day u will get to witness him 4 urself......
hit me bak weneva....
MeSe.s
TcB.
4/25/2007 8:26 PMRe: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
Alma
23, Houston, Texas, United States
I BELIEVE IN GOD N I LOVE GOD!! I MESS UP IN LIFE I AIN'T PERFECT BUT WHO IS?? Y DO PPL HAVE TO PUT DOWN GOD?? ITS NOT GOD THAT IS TALKIN THROUGH THESE PPL SUMTIMES.....ITS NOT ABOUT GOING TO CHURCH OR BEIN GOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I CAN TRULY SAY THAT I'VE FELT HIS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE......CHRISTIANITY ISN'T A RELIGION!!! ITS A BELIEF IN ONE GOD AND ONE GOD I BELIEVE IN!!! LET ME JUST TELL YALL THAT THIS BREAKS MY HEART BECAUSE I'M NOT PERFECT BUT EVERYTIME I MESS UP IN LIFE I FEEL FORGIVEN BY HIM, EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T C HIM I KNOW HE SEES ME N HE LOVES ME UNCONDITIONALLY JUST LIKE HE DOES U!!! GOD BLESS N TAKE CARE OF URSELVES!!













4/25/2007 6:28 AMRe: GOD DOES NOT EXIST?......probably
it wont let us down
we wont let you down