TAKE THE SPECIAL GOD QUIZ HERE:

1.D

2.None

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4.D (among other things)

5.None

Well i took it, that is a very limited way of explanation as answers given are simply not long enough. And there are some questions to which there is no answer given.

But hey.

Then make a different answer!

Any comments will shape the future of "CORDUROYS GOD QUIZ".

I don't need to take some athiest quiz to tell me if I believe in God or not. I am a devout Catholic, and if you don't like that, then learn to live with it. Just because you decided to spit in the face of God, that doesn't mean the rest of us should, and it doesn't mean you can mock religion.

Hey! Don't get angry, did I do any of this through contempt or vanity? No. Am I being rude at all? No. Hey I've got a joke for you now that you decided to pull out some disrespect-

What does Jazz and Catholicism have in Common?

They make stuff up as they go along!

Catholicism is the only Christian denomination that existed in the time of Jesus Christ, and the practices of Catholicism were created by Jesus himself.

that was a lame joke anyway. Did you make it up on the spot?

Well what does it say when Jesus was not even Catholic.

No, there are a million jokes. It's just because Religion, especially Catholicism is so easy to make jokes out of because its so flawed. Like, I'll make you a joke now...


Why does God make Catholic Priests Pray so much?

To Try to stop them messing around with so many little boys!

I know you've probabally been brought up by athiests, and been taught all the wrong things about religion, but the Catholic church does NOT promote child molesting. In fact, I think the priests who did that should be sent to jail. it's not all priests who molest kids.

Also, a lot of murderous gangs are created by black people. They're also savage rapists. i'd like you to make a joke about that.

No racism is not funny though.

The fact is that there are hundreds of priests who have been molestering children and the statistics are much much higher for priests. Perhaps most of them do the job just so that they have access to some young meet.

I was actually brought up catholic and interacted with people from all faiths and backgrounds. After a while you just realize how flawed Religion is though. Some of the worst are the Catholic church, Mormons and the Radical Muslims.

So, it's not OK to make fun of black people, but it's OK to make fun of Christians?

As I said and I think everyone knows- Racism is not funny.


Well that's subjective of course. Nobody here is trying to make fun OF Christians. Would it not be fair to say that it is OK to make fun of the ideology?

Just like we can all feel free to make fun of ideas like the following: Communism, Republicans, Lawyers, Jail, Celebrity fashion, Teenage gossip, SANTA CLAUS!

See why would it NOT be OK to make fun of the ideas? We already make fun of ideas from every other corner of the earth. But everybody knows- Racism and discrimination is just NOT funny.

So if discrimination is not funny, then why do you think discrimination against Christians funny?

WELL, how about you see below,

I think Secret Squirrel's answer just about summed it up!

black people were born black because it was hot where they're ancestors lived
so it's quite a usefull thing really, because they don't keep getting sun burn all the time

nothing funny about that

it also proves the darwin theory of evolution
which the church still disagrees with, even though it is proven

but

catholic's are only catholic because they are stupid enough to still believe the oldest and most repeated lie ever told

which is quite funny when you think about it

So, the reason why black people are black is proof of evolution? it's proof of micro-evolution, in which people and animals adapt to their enviroment. It doesn't strictly mean people evolved from apes and God doesn't exist.

How about this theory: God created man, and black people evolved from apes. What proof is there that white people and black people are the same species?

Also, have any fossils ever been uncovered that proves evolution? have any half-man, half-ape things been uncovered? They claim that man evolved from apes, but what proof is there? Also, what proof is there that God doesn't exist?

It sounds very strongly that you are just a VERY RACIST Christian Radical. Is that why you are Christian, so that you can express your racism? You do know that God in the Old testament wiped away different towns and made ways to separate people of different ethnicity, because that GOD, the one you and all Christians believe in is Racist and Xenophobic.

You're the one who preached to me about evolution, but when I say a certain group of people evolved from apes, that's extreme racism?

think about this: you believe we evolved from apes, eh? Well, do you believe black people evolved from apes as well? if you answer yes, you'd be a racist, and if you answer no, you'd be a hypocrate.

What are you talking about??

NOBODY THINKS ANYBODY EVOLVES FROM APES!!!

No one thinks people evolved from apes? isn't that evolution? So you're now telling me we evolved from something else then? Why the f**k don't you athiests just stick with one belief, instead of believing in every crackpot theory you people come up with!!

Sorry to say it, but your an idiot.

NOBODY BELIEVES PEOPLE EVOLVED FROM APES.

That's True! Scientists say we can be said to share a COMMON ANCESTER with the ape kingdom. NOTICE HOW DIFFERENT THE TWO SENTENCES ARE.

This guys giving me a headache. Aside the above statement of 'the same kingdom' how is evolving from ape's an insult? That's like saying someones a dickhead for breathing oxygen. And what do you mean every 'crack pot theory'? Your the one fighting for religion, you have no right on the offensive side there budski. And for the record, why the fuc* do you compare religion to race?! Why would you even bring that in? Religion is a belief system where as race is the genetic make up associated with a particular place. You can't decide to be black or white (unless you've got a couple of thousand dollars). And in fact, the idea behind religion is to believe in it regardless of what others think of it, hence the term 'faith'. Therefore by questioning it, we are completing the food chain, by being racist your just being stupid (not saying you were actually being racist, I know you were just using an example), especially if your Christian who's saviour told us to 'love thy neighbour' and the three religions from Abraham agree that 'You are your brothers keeper' meaning you must take care of those around you. Mindless discrimination doesn't really help does it?

Quote "it's just because religon, especially catholicism is so flawed.."

How about ignore what's flawed about it and instead accept and gain what isnt flawed about it. By ignoring all the flaws and accepting what does make sense you can continually grow spiritually and religiously without attaching yourself to the contraints of one belief system views. Translate something however you like to fit in with what makes sense for you and what u understand.

Sure, that sounds okay, but then to start that off, which belief system would we be blindly jumping off to? Because I'm sure if someone was to try out Islam (like many American Mavericks have done) that it could only be maliciously looked upon by Christians and vice versa. Religion is very much about my club vs yours and my "My imaginary friend vs yours" (Will Anderson, a Comedian).

Well it doesnt matter which one you jump off to, but i would suggest whatever one you see less flaws in. Technically u dont have to jump into any wholey to start off with, since they all have common moral principles. Assume all religions believe in the same God, but they have a different way of explaining him; they all pretty much define God the same way anyway as loving, intelligent all knowing being etc etc etc

Catholicism started way after Jesus died. It wasn't till the Romans becam converted that Catholicism started!

There were several groups of Christians in the early days

Some wanted it only to be taken to the Jews
Others to everyone

Early Christians were persecuted for many many years, till the Romans, then non Christians were persucuted!

*SMILES*

Thanks for the information! *wink*

So by your own accord (just out of curiosity) do you regard yourself as a Theist or a Deist? Deist I presume...Am I correct?

hehe neither LOL

That is why it was impossible to answer!

Too complicated to go into at the moment!

I consider myself a Christian, not because I believe he was born of David's lineage, nor of a Virgin. Nor do I believe he was physically raised from the dead, But I believe his basic teachings for the way of life at the correct way to live. "Love your neighbour as yourself" is one of his two "comandments". I am in the Religious Society of Friends, (Quakers), which I like because they encourage open thinking.

*SMILES*

That is really interesting. I think most people like me who are strong atheists (also known as Explicit Atheists) because how your decision is motivated. Explicit Atheists have made a choice to question things and have arrived at being Atheist so (in general) we tend to respect people who have also made a conscious decision to believe in what they believe.

I think that Christianity on the whole has some really good points- like the golden rule and the ten commandments. (Its just a lot of the people in history that have let it down). Its definitely a greater thing to look at in terms of its Ethical philosophies rather than its Metaphysical ones.

all aussies think they are god aye?

If you made any sense I would rebut you.

hahaha yeh

HAHA yeah.

i already voted!!!
you scored 3 now,..
haha,..
oh, I LOVE YOU!!!!

this quiz doesnt work.

It says im an agnostic???? WTF?????

im a fucking christian, there is no agnostic in me whatsoever.

and after agnostic I was deist.... WTF??? I didnt get any theist answers...

besides this is totally stupid.

An agnostic is a form of atheism.

And a deist can be either theist OR atheist.

No, they are all different. It just depends on what definition one chooses to take as to whether one or more fall under the category of another or more.

Did you know that there are MANY theistic agnostics? Check it out. It is basically believing in what is real but accepting God as well...check it out on the net somewhere.

A deist is NEVER an atheist. It is IMPOSSIBLE, Deists are under Religions influence.

I suggest checking up on the definitions. It sure is interesting...

i know a lot about deism and it can be either or.

Deists are not necesarily under religion's influence. Some deists just believe there is a "god" or some kind of superior existence out there, but it is nothing like any of the religions describe and it doesnt care about our personal lives.

If you say there are theistic agnostics out there i believe you, but it is a contradiction to me. Agnostic means you are not convinced either way of god's existence or you think it's impossible to know. A theist believes in god... so if they believe in god they cant also believe that they're not sure.

Even if someone does call themself a theistic agnostic... as obscure as it is, they would still be categorised as atheists (weak atheists to be specific, as opposed to strong atheists). Because atheism merely means an absence of a definite belief in god. And if they are any description of agnostic, they cannot possibly have a definite belief in god.

Agnostic theism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Agnostic Theism is the philosophical view that encompasses both theism and agnosticism. An agnostic theist is one who views that the truth value of certain claims, in particular the existence of god(s) is unknown or inherently unknowable but chooses to believe in god(s) in spite of this. There are contrasting views of the term.


Deism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Deism is a religious philosophy and movement that became prominent in England, France, and the United States in the 17th and 18th centuries. Deists typically reject supernatural events (prophecy, miracles) and divine revelation prominent in organized religion, along with holy books and revealed religions that assert the existence of such things. Instead, deists hold that religious beliefs must be founded on human reason and observed features of the natural world, and that these sources reveal the existence of one God or supreme being.

Thus two things are shown:
(i) A deist MUST believe in a God.
(ii) An agnostic CAN be Theistic.

um... didnt you read my comment at all?

I wasnt trying to say there is no such thing as a theistic agnostic, obviously if there is, there is - but my response to such a notion is:

Even if someone does call themself a theistic agnostic... as obscure as it is, they would still be categorised as atheists (weak atheists to be specific, as opposed to strong atheists). Because atheism merely means an absence of a definite belief in god. And if they are any description of agnostic, they cannot possibly have a definite belief in god.

Just because someone is a theistic XYZ, clearly does not equate to them being categorised as a theist.

Not unlike the fact that australia is a fairly social democracy - but of course, we are not socialists.

As for "a deist MUST believe in god".

wrong.

That conjecture can NOT be concluded from the information you gave.

As i have said, a deist can either be a thiest, or an atheist.

If they are theist, it is because they have a definite belief in a god -

if they are atheist, it could be because the supreme existence they envision is simply the equivalent of life itself/nature. OR they are agnostic deists - meaning that deism is what they are inclined to, but they also believe that it is all a very uncertain thing - all of which would make them weak atheists overall, because they simply LACK a definitive belief in a god.


Howevere, i will make one correction to my last post in regard to

"Deists are not necesarily under religion's influence"

what i meant but was lazy in specifying was - "Deists are not necesarily under organised religion's influence" (because of course it is impossible for any religion to not be under any religion's influence lol)


EDIT: ohhhhh ok ok. I just realised why you're not making any sense.

See you originally spoke of a "theistic agnosticism" - which i replied was ridiculous and essentially just weak atheism.

When instead, the term you had MEANT to use was "agnostic theism"

VERY DIFFERENT things.

Like my first reaction indicated, the concept of theistic agnosticism is nonsensical - but as for "agnostic theism", well that makes more sense.

So i guess in an obscure way an agnostic can be theistic since as i said, people can do what they like (but still not really a theist) - but only in one condition (that being "agnostic theism") - All other agnostics are a form of weak atheism.



In any case - my original point was simply that this test is stupid because all the terms overlap with each other, and my answers were totally inaccurate.

Oh, god quiz, shiney!

1. D
2. D
3. D
4. D
5. D

Hmmm, pretty one sided answers...

Liked the test; thanks for providing it:D

Lol. No problem. :D

Thanks for taking it and commenting!

Q1 = D
Q2 = A
Q3 = A
Q4 = Question Four is flawed in that " the idea that God and science do not correlate at all " is the exact opposite of the truth. The reason i believe in God is because science correlates it exactly. The majority of scientists believe in the existence of God, i suggest you google it and find out yourself. I will name one scientist as an example, Einstien.

Q5 = C, Although this question is flawed also, it is an entrapping and biased question and related to blind faith and not legitimate faith based on reason. Also it is taking a study carried out by Paul Bell as fact which is unlegitimate in survey, whoever wrote it has minimal acedemic skills in writting surveys, and thus the outcome is not accurate either.

The survey results say i am a 'Deist', which means 'i feel convinced there is a God through Reasoning' which i believe is accurate although i wouldnt put much trust in the credibility of the survey at all.

I suggest you google it, because I guarantee you that the very great majority of scientists do not believe in God, at least the God of religion as what we commonly refer to by the word.

The one scientist you named, Einstein, was in fact not religious at all and always questioned the possibility of there being a greater universal power, but never came close to believing in any Abrahamic God, such as the one most people in the United States or many other countries follow.

Look MARZ, this is my claim;

"the majority of scientists believe in a GOD as defined any dictionary meaning (universal creator)"

I came to realise this when i was researching a presentation on 'the existence of God'.

The only field of scientists who i think have minority who believe in a God is psychology who only study human minds.

im c and d

im a c

I C!

That's cool, everybody respets Cs hey...you've got the best of all worlds! lol.

C for me :)
the asnwer no answer deal i'm telling ya
messy

dont need a quiz to tell me wat to belive.(which i dont anyway)

Thats true. Its just supposed to be a little fun and thought-provoking. Peace.

yeh well they can go and get fucked for all i care bud

hehe

Only number 1 can I find an answer that i nearly agree with! LOL

1d
2 to 6 my answer is not in any of the list you provided LOL


PROOF! that I am VERY odd!


LOL

Haven't time now to give full answers but if you want them I will do so later BUT

I amy need reminding!

*SMILES

*darn, i've taken your exam!
still, i'm AGNOSTIC!!!

lol. Thats cool! The quiz is just supposed to be a little interesting and mind opening...Lucky that it worked! I'm not sure whether it would or not. Peace :D

im a anti believer, i just think its just better that way...

Its the maverick way!

I'm a C. :-)

I just wanted to point out the dangers of the footnote you placed, especially this one:
"the higher one's intelligence or education level, the less one is likely to be religious or hold 'beliefs' of any kind."

I deduce from this footnote that you hold a very high regard for intellectuals. This, my friend, can be dangerous.
Anyone can be intelligent or educated, but not everyone can be wise.
An intellectual is not necessarily a wise person, and a wise person is not necessarily educated (talking in terms of schooling).
A wise person doesn't have personal grudges or feeling of superiority to others, which allows them to be free from negativity allowing them to reach levels no intellectual can ever fathom. But an intellectual (sometimes) is held back by his personal (negative) thoughts of others, disabling him from ever reaching his potential (i.e: wisdom).

So you see, you should be looking up to wise-men, not necessarily intellectuals.
As an anonymous person has said:
A spoon does not know the taste of soup, nor a learned fool the taste of wisdom.
:-)

P.S: I don't expect anyone to fully understand this until they have seen or tasted wisdom. Give it time. :-)

Irnesa

THAT was a very WISE message

I am proud of you for posting that

Yes I know what you mean.

What ever level of "Intelligence" we have, we all do some things that will appear to go against our "intelligence".

I know sugar is bad for me LOL Yet I still eat sugar, I have cut down on it but still have some.

I remember once being introduced to some friends of a friend who were in Mensa, It "shocked" me that they were heavy smokers! (This was back in the 1960's) I thought how can INTELLIGENT people SMOKE, when they know the dangers!

Thanks Irnesa for bringing out an intelligent & wise thought.

*SMILES*

(You can die laughing now ................so long as you are back on your feet 30 seconds later! LOL)

Omigosh! The wise-man of Zorpia has spoken to ME! :-O *runs around like a madwoman*

*LAUGHS!!!*
Awww shucks! Thank you Chris! :-D ♥

Sorry, but you have reached no point there. All you have said is you object to it because you think this proven statistical data is not sufficient for your tastes.

No one can argue that a some jobs like a scientist are obviously more intellectual than a job such as...a carpenter. This test shows that the GREAT majority of those that hold intellectual tests do not believe in 'God'.

Amazing data, just goes to show....

I wasn't refering to the data whatsoever.
I was simply saying that it APPEARS that you value intellectuals a lot more than anyone else. I was just trying to say that wisdom is far greater than intelligence. Follow wisdom. :-)

Intellect and Wisdom would appear to come hand in hand, no?

Not necessarily.
As many people, including famous ones, have noted: "People confuse knowledge with wisdom."

Since we're on the subject of education, I think I'll copy/paste here a journal I read on someone's profile, which fits this discussion perfectly (well, it's more on the education system and teaching, but it makes valid points). There will be some things you won't understand what the author means, but with time, you too will understand the difference between knowledge/intellect and wisdom. :-)
It's a tad long, my apologies.

An essay written by my mentor, Dr.Daisaku Ikeda

"I firmly believe that every young person has the power to change the world. It is the role of those who teach to believe in that power, to encourage and release it."

I remember being set a project for one summer vacation during elementary school. We had to make something at home and bring it with us for the new term. Being clumsy, I could not get anything together and had to return to school embarrassed and empty-handed.
When asked what happened to my project, I stammered out that I had forgotten it at home. To my horror, the teacher told me to go home and bring it back right away! I returned home feeling desperate and miserable. Looking around, I saw a bookshelf my older brother had made. I presented this to my teacher, who praised my work and gave me a good grade for it. But, looking back, I am sure that he knew what the real story was.

From one perspective you might say that this teacher was rewarding me for lying, but that is not my view. Through the warm, large-hearted way he embraced me, he communicated to me a very concrete sense of being believed in - really what I needed at that moment. And, of course, I felt deeply ashamed, and vowed never to let such a thing to happen again.

I believe that education is what remains long after the content of each specific lesson we were taught has been forgotten. The essence of education is character formation, teaching young people how to live in society and encouraging them to think independently. Study is much more than simply absorbing existing knowledge and techniques, and the ability to memorise and reason is nothing compared to the wisdom, emotional richness, and creativity that resides within every human being.

Education that does not teach a sense of values turns people into mere robots filled with data but with no understanding of what it is for. Such soulless, over-competitive schooling makes children arrogant, while the less academically bright are left with little self-confidence and a deep fear of failure.

Sadly, education is often used to cultivate people who are useful only to the extent that they fit into various slots in society, and school systems in Japan and many other countries actually prevent children from developing their full potential.
In the race to climb the ladder of scholastic prestige and status, we can easily lose sight of the most important question of all: What is the purpose of learning?

I believe that the genuine goal of education must be the lifelong happiness of those who learn. Education should never be subordinated to the demands of national ego, or of corporations searching for profit-generating employees. Human beings, happiness, must always be the goal and objective.

My own teacher, Josei Toda, often said that the greatest error of modern humanity was that it has confused knowledge with wisdom. Knowledge itself is a neutral tool that can be used for good or evil. As history sadly proves, educated monsters can wreak far greater horror than their unschooled brothers. At least, seven of the participants at the Wannsee Conference where the Nazis planned the 'final solution'-extermination-to the 'Jewish problem', had doctoral degrees. It is hard to imagine a greater perversion and debasement of education.

Wisdom, in contrast, always directs us toward happiness. The task of education must be to stimulate and unleash the wisdom that lies dormant in the lives of all people. This is not a forced process, like pressing something into a preformed mould, but rather drawing out the potential that lies within.

I firmly believe that every young person has the power to change the world. It is the role of those who teach to believe in that power, to encourage and release it.

The relationship between teacher and pupil can be a vital link through which new horizons are opened up and life develops. To me, the essence of education is this process whereby one person's character inspires another. When teachers become partners in the process of discovery, burning with a passion for truth, the desire to learn will naturally be ignited in their students' hearts. And once children feel that their teachers are genuinely concerned for their individual welfare, they will begin to trust them and open up to them.

It saddens me that now this vital bond between pupil and teacher seems to have been weakened by distrust and misunderstanding. Teachers everywhere struggle with problems of control and discipline, and students resent the fact that they must cram their heads full of knowledge that fails to answer their pressing questions about life, the real world and human relationships.
Teachers who do not understand and care for their students, merely parroting stereotyped answers, cannot possibly satisfy children's curious and sensitive minds. It must never be forgotten that the most important people in school are its students.

I once heard about a Japanese elementary school teacher who was irritated by a girl in his class who was unable to keep up. He gave up trying to help her after a fellow teacher told him, "Human beings are just like fruit; twenty to thirty per cent is always worthless and there's nothing you can do about it."
Then, one day during a break, he noticed the girl playing with a puzzle, trying to put plastic pieces together so that they fit into a box. Finally she succeeded and yelled, "I got it!" her face sparkling with a delight he had never seen before. The teacher suddenly felt remorse. How dare he give up on her! Was it not his job to make sure that each child walked out of his classroom with the confidence that they could do anything if they really tried?
He discovered that the girl's parents, both graduates of leading universities, were constantly calling her 'stupid'. The teacher resolved to praise her every day, for every little accomplishment, to wash away the stain of criticism from her heart.
After a year, the girl was transformed. Proceeding at her own pace, she came to experience the joy of learning. The key was her realisation that if she made an effort to achieve something, she could do it.

This story shows how the smallest failure can destroy a child's confidence, and the smallest catalyst can trigger growth. It is vital that teachers believe in every child's potential and care about their happiness as human beings.

THANKS Irnesa,

I don't usually read LONG BITS! LOL

BUT I had to read this

IF ONLY MORE PEOPLE REALISED THIS!

You may or may not know that I use to be a teacher, of maths to 11 to 18 year olds.

I would agree with most if not all of that article. andthings have got worse sinceI left teaching 20 years ago. I often would try and draw out the uninterested and "weaker" children. I just wish I had been a better teacher. But after 21 years of trying, including some of the above in the article, I was in need of a "rest". TEACHING IS HARD, even for the best teachers.

Since my years on the internet, 7 years now, I have come across and got to know several people who have felt USELESS because of the way they were brought up (Home & school) In the worst cases they were the subject of abuses as well. I have even met a few on my world trip. It is so sad that people are not taught to be their best, as in this article.

THANK YOU IRNESA for posting this

ALL TEACHERS and educational establishments ought to read that.

*SMILES*

Oh wow, I didn't know that!
I'm quite sure you did what you could, no point in regretting or thinking "if only's", you can't change what's in the past.

You're very welcome. :-)

Irnesa : That was extremely well said, i couldnt agree more. Fantastic contribution, i enjoyed reading it.

Thank you. :-)

I'm agnostic! RRRRRRRRRRGGhhhhhhh!! But for myself, i do not really believe in the christianity because too many things do not make sense, as in the religion contradicts itself. It's my opinion though.

Could be your interpretation of certain aspects of religion contradict itself. You can interpret anything however you want to fit in and "make complete sense" for you.